What does it mean to be responsible as a mad person in a world that refuses to recognize your reality? In this episode, Matt Bodett and Megan Sterling explore the difficult, necessary, and expansive terrain of mad responsibility. Drawing from the myth of Herakles and his labors, we ask: What happens when madness causes harm? What is penance without punishment? And how do we create communities that hold accountability without exile?

Through conversation, reflection, and critique, we look at what it means to lead from within madness, to translate mad experience without betrayal, and to honor the silences that cannot be filled. We invite you to consider what kind of spaces, relationships, and futures we might build when we refuse the scripts of guilt and begin to write our own terms of care.

In this special reflection episode, we step away from biographies and histories to explore madness itself—not as a diagnosis, but as a philosophy. What happens when madness is seen not as error, but as insight? Not as disorder, but as sacred rupture?

Drawing on lived experience, poetic language, and philosophical frameworks, this episode invites listeners into a deeper meditation on perception, beauty, coherence, and the illusions we call normalcy. Along the way, we consider the limits of reason, the violence of performance, the possibilities of peer care, and why madness might be closer to the truth than we’re often allowed to believe.

This episode is slower, more spacious. This episode is an offering for those who have stood at the edge and wondered what it means to keep going.

In this episode, we trace the haunting life and visionary work of Unica Zürn. She was a German/French surrealist, poet, and artist. Through drawings, anagram poetry, and hallucinatory writing, Zürn reimagined madness not as pathology, but as a form of expression. We explore her relationships, institutionalization, and artistic resistance, asking what it means to write from a dangerous place.