Maintenance Phase

By: Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
  • Summary

  • Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.
    © 2024 Maintenance Phase
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  • Richard Simmons
    Oct 25 2024

    Part 1: The Early Years

    Before building his fitness empire, America’s most bedazzled fitness guru was a guy named Milton from New Orleans.

    Support us:

    • Hear bonus episodes on Patreon
    • Watch Aubrey’s documentary in AU & NZ, or watch it at home anywhere else!
    • Buy Aubrey's book
    • Listen to Mike's other podcast
    • Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more

    Links!

    • Still Hungry...After All These Years by Richard Simmons
    • "Hair-Do"
    • Anatomy Asylum Commercial
    • Richard Simmons: New Orleans's hometown hero
    • A Speedy History of America’s Addiction to Amphetamine

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • The Myers-Briggs Personality Test
    Sep 12 2024

    How a mother, a daughter and a crackpot Swiss psychologist gave us the world's most popular Buzzfeed quiz.

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    • Hear bonus episodes on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more
    • Watch Aubrey's documentary
    • Buy Aubrey's book
    • Listen to Mike's other podcast

    Links!

    • The Personality Brokers by Merve Emre
    • Myers Briggs Type Preferences
    • What Personality Tests Really Deliver
    • The $2 Billion Question of Who You Are at Work
    • Cautionary Comments Regarding the MBTI
    • The Barnum Effect in Personality Assessment
    • The Mysterious Popularity Of The Meaningless Myers-Briggs
    • Why the Myers-Briggs personality test is totally meaningless
    • Can you truly know yourself in a quiz?
    • What You Don't Know about This Personality Test Can Hurt You
    • MBTI, If You Want Me Back, You Need to Change Too
    • Personality Tests Aren't All the Same
    • The Utility of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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    55 mins
  • BONUS: Breaking Down The Latest Anti-Trans Victory Lap
    Jul 1 2024

    We went a little easy on the Cass Report in our last main feed episode, so we're back to [Mortal Kombat voice] FINISH HIM!!!

    This was supposed to be a Patreon bonus episode but we'd rather you support the lovely trans people who helped us with the research and fact-checking of this episode!

    Julia Serano: https://www.patreon.com/juliaserano
    Parker Molloy: https://www.readtpa.com/
    Katelyn Burns: https://www.patreon.com/katelynburns
    Evan Urquhart: https://www.assignedmedia.org/support
    Erin Reed: https://www.erininthemorning.com/

    Or organizations that work with trans youth in the UK:
    Gendered Intelligence: https://genderedintelligence.co.uk/
    Mermaids: https://mermaidsuk.org.uk/
    Stonewall: https://www.stonewall.org.uk/

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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    1 hr and 3 mins

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All time favorite podcast

Aubrey & Michael are the best friends I’ve never met. If you’re mid thirties and grew up in a diet obsessed environment ALL the references hit.

Reasons to listen:

#1 The amount of research is impressive. I can never again uncritically accept nutrition study findings.
#2 I’m less of a jerk. They helped me recognize and end my own anti fat behaviors.
#3 it’s super entertaining. The format of the show (hosts take turns teaching one another about the topic) is great. You get to be shocked/angered at the same time as Michael or Aubrey!

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love it!

They are great! so funny and while I knew about Joseph Pilates never knew about Kathleen Stanford Grant. Great episode.

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Hanging on every word

This podcast is SO hilarious. The podcasters feel like your best friends, the stories are hilarious and well-researched.

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my new favorite podcast

I love this podcast. Mike and Aubrey are my soul mates. I love the sass with their well-researched topics. I work in a college counseling center with students so brutalized by fat shaming, diet culture, etc. This is a great place to send them for an introduction to shutting off the never-enough megaphone so they can begin to love and accept their bodies and themselves. Thank you, thank you, thank yoi!

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Language my mother wouldn't approve but

This podcast is one of my favorites! Aubrey and Michael are so fun to listen to and I am so engaged in every single episode.

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Thank you Aubrey and Michael

First of all I almost had a wreck laughing when you tasted the celery juice. You two are so funny together. I’m enjoying the deep-dive, origin-story synthesis of American ridiculousness that got us into so many of these hilarious-in-hindsight predicaments like the Presidential Fitness what-the-eff-were-they-thinking. Although that is a shared American ordeal that can unite our fractured country at least for a nanosecond of conversation. And if somebody says “oh I thought that presidential fitness test was super fun” you know to get away fast. You have helped me to organize my own baked-in fat self-hate, the circus of diet hopes and highs and lows, the perils of being a weight loss Judas, the thick sludge of stupid opinions and concern trolling we all have to wade through. Thank you for radicalizing me.

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LOVE this podcast!

This podcast is funny, thoughtful, and informative. Audrey and Mike have great chemistry. I now have a reason to look forward to Tuesday mornings because that means there's a new episode!

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My favorite podcast!

As a researcher, I appreciate the critical review of research and the presentation of facts. These two are knowledgeable AND entertaining. I hope they around for many years to come.

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My favorite podcast ever.

Snarky, warm and opinionated. Really deepened my understanding of the topic in a very entertaining way. Also, Aubrey and Mike have a great chemistry and are just fun to listen to.

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Rewiring our brains on what Healthy "looks like"

excellent episode. I'll be listening to this series based on this episode! Thank you Glennon and Abby for introducing me to this podcast!

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