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Maintenance Phase

Maintenance Phase

By: Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
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 Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.© 2025 Maintenance Phase Hygiene & Healthy Living World
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  • Ultra-Processed Foods

    Ultra-Processed Foods
    Jun 3 2025

    Everyone agrees that processed foods are bad for you. When it comes to defining what they actually are, however, there is considerably less agreement.

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    • Nutrition and health. The issue is not food, nor nutrients, so much as processing
    • Ultra-Processed Foods: Definitions and Policy Issues
    • Examining the Nova Food Classification System and the Healthfulness of Ultra-Processed Foods
    • A new classification of foods based on the extent and purpose of their processing
    • Ultra-processed diets cause excess calorie intake and weight gain
    • Why Is the American Diet So Deadly?
    • Ultra-processed foods and mortality
    • Association of ultra-processed food intake with risk of inflammatory bowel disease: prospective cohort study
    • Academic and doctor Chris van Tulleken: ‘Ultra-processed products are food that lies to us’
    • Food addiction: a valid concept?
    • The study of food addiction using animal models of binge eating
    • Obesity and the brain: how convincing is the addiction model?
    • Ultra-processed foods and cardiovascular disease: analysis of three large US prospective cohorts
    • Sugar addiction: the state of the science
    • The Plastic Chemicals Hiding in Your Food
    • Premature Mortality Attributable to Ultraprocessed Food Consumption in 8 Countries
    • Ultra-processed food intake and animal-based food intake

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    1 hr and 11 mins
  • BONUS: MAHA's First 90 Days

    BONUS: MAHA's First 90 Days
    May 1 2025

    From our Patreon feed, we're catching up with RFK Jr. and his cadre of "Make America Healthy Again" influencers.

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    53 mins
  • The Bulletproof Diet

    The Bulletproof Diet
    Mar 26 2025

    Meet the tech bro on a noble quest to double his lifespan, improve his productivity and irritate his waitress.

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    • Mycotoxins Myth: The Truth About Mold in Coffee
    • Guidance for Industry: Action Levels for Poisonous or Deleterious Substances in Human Food and Animal Feed
    • You, Only Better
    • FTC letter to Dave Asprey
    • Alternative medicine fans see RFK Jr. as a hero. The field’s skeptics worry.
    • The Bulletproof Diet is everything wrong with eating in America
    • Bulletproof Coffee: Debunking the Hot Buttered Hype
    • Buttered Coffee Could Make You Invincible. And This Man Very Rich

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    54 mins
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Aubrey & Michael are the best friends I’ve never met. If you’re mid thirties and grew up in a diet obsessed environment ALL the references hit.

Reasons to listen:

#1 The amount of research is impressive. I can never again uncritically accept nutrition study findings.
#2 I’m less of a jerk. They helped me recognize and end my own anti fat behaviors.
#3 it’s super entertaining. The format of the show (hosts take turns teaching one another about the topic) is great. You get to be shocked/angered at the same time as Michael or Aubrey!

All time favorite podcast

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They are great! so funny and while I knew about Joseph Pilates never knew about Kathleen Stanford Grant. Great episode.

love it!

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This podcast is one of my favorites! Aubrey and Michael are so fun to listen to and I am so engaged in every single episode.

Language my mother wouldn't approve but

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First of all I almost had a wreck laughing when you tasted the celery juice. You two are so funny together. I’m enjoying the deep-dive, origin-story synthesis of American ridiculousness that got us into so many of these hilarious-in-hindsight predicaments like the Presidential Fitness what-the-eff-were-they-thinking. Although that is a shared American ordeal that can unite our fractured country at least for a nanosecond of conversation. And if somebody says “oh I thought that presidential fitness test was super fun” you know to get away fast. You have helped me to organize my own baked-in fat self-hate, the circus of diet hopes and highs and lows, the perils of being a weight loss Judas, the thick sludge of stupid opinions and concern trolling we all have to wade through. Thank you for radicalizing me.

Thank you Aubrey and Michael

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This podcast is funny, thoughtful, and informative. Audrey and Mike have great chemistry. I now have a reason to look forward to Tuesday mornings because that means there's a new episode!

LOVE this podcast!

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As a researcher, I appreciate the critical review of research and the presentation of facts. These two are knowledgeable AND entertaining. I hope they around for many years to come.

My favorite podcast!

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Snarky, warm and opinionated. Really deepened my understanding of the topic in a very entertaining way. Also, Aubrey and Mike have a great chemistry and are just fun to listen to.

My favorite podcast ever.

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excellent episode. I'll be listening to this series based on this episode! Thank you Glennon and Abby for introducing me to this podcast!

Rewiring our brains on what Healthy "looks like"

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Always so informative and interesting. while the topics are complex, they are so good at unwinding the issues.

I love these hosts.

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This podcast is SO hilarious. The podcasters feel like your best friends, the stories are hilarious and well-researched.

Hanging on every word

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