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Meat + Three

Meat + Three

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Get ready for a delectable experience with Meat + Three, your bi-weekly serving of food stories and commentary served up by the talented Fellows at Heritage Radio Network (HRN). Inspired by the Southern tradition of a hearty main dish and three sides, this podcast offers a deep dive into the latest food trends, the socio-cultural impact of food, and personal narratives about our relationships with what we eat and drink. Powered by the HRN Fellowship program, Meat + Three serves as a vibrant platform for our seasonally-rotating contributors to share their insights and stories, ensuring a diverse range of voices and perspectives. Join us as we explore the food systems landscape, uncovering what's happening in the world right now. Meat + Three is proudly brought to you by HRN, a Brooklyn-based nonprofit dedicated to fostering a more equitable, sustainable, and delicious world through its array of over 25 weekly food shows. This program is supported, in part, by the Julia Child Foundation for Gastronomy and the Culinary Arts as well as public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council. Hosted by Taylor Early and H Conley.Copyright 2025 HRN Art Food & Wine Social Sciences
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  • From The Pantry: Myth of the Soyboy Ep 1
    Jun 17 2025
    Buckle up, snowflake. Get ready for a TOTAL EVISCERATION of all things soy. That’s right, on this episode of From the Pantry, we’re dropping a LOGIC BOMB on the Myth of the Soyboy. We’ll be talking PHYTOESTROGENS, FAKE NEWS, and why this particular soy-themed insult gained such popularity over the last few years. Join producer Sam Gerardi as he wades through the bro science muck to get some answers. Myth of the Soyboy is written, produced, and edited by Sam Gerardi. Our hosts are H Conley and Taylor Early. The cover art for this episode was made by Sam Gerardi.This episode featured clips from HRN’s Let’s Get Real with Erica Wides. You can find the original episode heard today here.A big thank you to Addison Austin-Lou, Hannah Chouinard, Sasha DuBose, and Annie Zetkulic for all of their help on this arc! From the Pantry is a limited series developed by HRN’s Director of Education and Creative Development Taylor Early, focusing on illuminating HRN’s two-fold mission of educating community members in response to a changing world and cultivating the next generation of food media leaders. This series is made up of four narrative arcs researched, scripted, and produced by one of alumni fellows. Each fellow pulled concepts, ideas and conversations from HRN’s archive (the pantry) and created stories that explore the personal significance and broader cultural meaning of what they found. Further Reading:Below are links to the studies mentioned in this episode, as well as other relevant studies. Neither soy nor isoflavone intake affects male reproductive hormones: An expanded and updated meta-analysis of clinical studiesThe 2021 meta analysis of the effects of soy isoflavones on men’s reproductive hormones.(Note: This analysis includes studies which discuss sperm and semen parameters, all of which conclude that soy exerts no effect on these factors) Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis2009 meta analysis on the effects of soy isoflavones on men’s reproductive hormones. An Unusual Case of Gynecomastia Associated with Soy Product ConsumptionThe original James Price study, subject of the 2009 Men’s Health article. Impact of the Phytoestrogen Content of Laboratory Animal Feed on the Gene Expression Profile of the Reproductive System in the Immature Female RatGoitrogenic and estrogenic activity of soy isoflavones.The early 2000s isoflavone rat studies reported on by Scientific American. Protease Inhibitors and Lectins in Soya Beans and Effects of Aqueous Heat-TreatmentImplications of antinutritional components in soybean foodsStudies on protease inhibitors in soy, and the impact of heat treatment. Effects of soy protein and soybean isoflavones on thyroid function in healthy adults and hypothyroid patients: a review of the relevant literature2006 meta analysis of studies on soy-derived goitrogens. https://news.gallup.com/poll/656708/lgbtq-identification-rises.aspx=2024 Gallup poll on LGBTQ+ identification. The reach of commercially motivated junk news on Facebook2019 junk news study. Proving the Obvious? What Sensationalism Contributes to the Time Spent on News Video2017 sensationalism study. The effect of soy food intake on mineral status in premenopausal womenIs There Such a Thing as “Anti-Nutrients”? A Narrative Review of Perceived Problematic Plant CompoundsStudies and academic reviews relevant to that “mineral inhibitor” clip.(Particularly see paper 2's section on Goitrogens and Phytates. The benefits of consuming a diverse diet of plants, including ones with these compounds, far outweigh the potential mineral inhibiting effects.) Soybean isoflavone exposure does not have feminizing effects on men: a critical examination of the clinical evidenceAssociation between a soy-based infant diet and the onset of puberty: A systematic review and meta-analysisSoy protein supplementation is not androgenic or estrogenic in college-aged men when combined with resistance exercise trainingSoy, phytoestrogens and their impact on reproductive healthOther relevant studies. Music and SFX Licenses:Evil - Kirk Osamayo https://freemusicarchive.org/music/kirk-osamayo/season-two-black/evil/The Flower Duet - Leo Delibes (Recorded by PM Music) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTezt1LbpMU&ab_channel=LudandSchlattsMusicalEmporiumQuestions - Mr. Smith https://freemusicarchive.org/music/mr-smith/studio-city/questions/Flat Lining (Instrumental) - HoliznaRAPS https://freemusicarchive.org/music/holiznaraps/flat-lining/flat-lining-instrumental/Driving - Jan-Michael Hökenschnieder x Fachhochschule Dortmund https://freemusicarchive.org/music/jan-michael-hokenschnieder/single/driving/
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    19 mins
  • Bless This Food
    May 9 2025

    Over the past six months, our team, as well as, the rest of the country, have experienced a lot of grief and heartache. As we grapple with how to navigate these losses - whether it’s a loved one or the threat to our freedoms - something that has always helped us cope is food, and its connections to community and each other. This shared experience brought us into conversations about how food can act as an intimate and integral part of mourning.

    The stories in our Season 17 finale include a visit to a temple to explore how food, ritual and memory come together, a talk with a death doula, the recipes that remind us to connect with the ones that are still here– as well as a few familiar ones from seasons’ past.

    Stick around to the end of the episode for a special little conversation between Hosts and Executive Producers H Conley and Taylor Early, a love note if you will, to Meat and Three and the community of storytellers that have contributed to the airwaves over the past seasons.

    Further Reading:

    To learn more about David Sutton’s work on Food Anthropology, check out his book Remembrance of Repasts: An Anthropology of Food and Memory.

    To discover more about Azul and their offerings, check out their instagram @mariposxhealing or their website Mariposx healing

    Curious about how food and grief intersect ? Check out Grief at the Table, Holiday Edition, Support from Voices of Color, A digital zine exploring how personal and familial losses are experienced during the holiday season and how to process our grief in community.

    For more information about Burmese Food, visit Burmalicious by Suu and Mimi Aye’s blog for recipes, links to cookbooks, and more.

    This episode of Meat and Three was lovingly reported by Hieu Huynh, Jessie Nicely, Zariel Grullón, Maya Okindo, and Taylor Early.

    Our lead producer on this episode was Hieu Huynh, with support from Taylor Graham, Kiki Canuto, Bean Metcalf, and Ash Tyler.

    Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

    Our audio engineer for this episode was Sam Gerardi.

    Keep Meat and Three on the air: become an HRN Member today! Go to heritageradionetwork.org/donate.

    Meat and Three is powered by Simplecast.

    Music Licenses:

    Downtown Serenade by Jahzzar - https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jahzzar/Viikinsaari/Downtown_Serenade_1409

    Skywalkers by bobby lee - https://freemusicarchive.org/music/orakhal/single/skywalkers/

    Old Age by HoliznaCC0 - https://freemusicarchive.org/music/holiznacc0/only-in-the-milky-way-part-1/old-age/

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    46 mins
  • From the Pantry: The Cult of Chef Ep 3
    May 1 2025
    In the third and final episode of The Cult of Chef, producer Hannah Chouinard turns to those trying to reform food service, and those trying to keep it the same. She makes the case that the media’s failure to cover reform organizations and workers’ rights has hampered efforts to improve working conditions, and strengthened the position of actors who benefit from the status quo. In conversation with Reem Assil and Stephanie Luce, she urges journalists and writers to reflect on whose perspectives they prioritize, and consider who they want to align themselves with as we move into an unpredictable political future. The Cult of Chef is written, produced, and edited by Hannah Chouinard. It is hosted by the one and only Taylor Early. Cover art for The Cult of Chef is designed by the incredible Michael Hampton. For more art, comedy, and silliness, you can find him here. Listen to Reem Assil’s full interview on Why Food? Here.To find out more about Reem Assil, you can check out her website, here.Read her op-ed on the toxicity of chef culture here. You can read about Stephanie Luce and find her work here.Check out her podcast on organizing and activism here. If you’re interested in learning more about the National Restaurant Association, check out an article from the New York Times here.You can find more information on their funders here.To learn more about the NRA’s efforts to weaken child labor laws, you can check a report from One Fair Wage here, and an article from the NRA’s website here.You can read about their lobbying contributions here.To explore the NRA’s legal efforts, you can find a list here. Their suit arguing low wage employees should be exempt from overtime pay is especially interesting – you can read it here. You can find a UCSF study that discusses line cook COVID mortality here.The Hill published a great rundown here. The Michelin Guide’s assessment criteria are listed here.The James Beard Foundation’s are here, and information about their code of ethics is here.Read about some of the JBF scandals here and here.The New York Times investigation of JBF’s ethics enforcement is here.Their sponsors are listed here and here.You can find fiery critiques of the Michelin Guide’s effect on dining culture here and here.For a more nuanced critique, you can find a report on the relative impact of financial capital and chef skill on awards here. More information on One Fair Wage lives here.You can read about the impacts of ending subminimum-tipped wages here and here. If you want to get into the political theory weeds, you can check out Carl Boggs’ 1977 essay on prefigurative politics here. Read about Southern Smoke, a nonprofit focused on connecting food and beverage workers with healthcare and emergency financial assistance, here.To learn more about FIG, an organization of food service workers dedicated to pursuing collective liberation, check out their website here.You can find more information about the Chicago Hospitality Accountability and Advocacy Database (CHAAD), here.Learn more about Restaurant Workers’ Community Foundation, the nonprofit behind the HRN series Shiftwork, at their website, here.You can read about Los Deliveristas Unidos, a nonprofit dedicated to organizing and advocating for delivery drivers, here. For information about restaurant unions, you can read about UniteHere!, the New York and New Jersey restaurant union local, here.You can also read about Restaurant Workers United, a worker-led restaurant union, here.Find more about the Chipotle Workers Union here, and Starbucks Workers United here.If you’re looking to get inspired to organize your workplace, you can find Kevin Bruce’s book on the history of NYC food service organizing here. An extra special thank you to Joey Freeman, Roan Shea, Safieh Moshir-Fatemi, Sarah Gabrielli, and Alex Groher-Jick for all their help on this arc.
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    29 mins
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