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Melissa & Lori Love Literacy ™

Melissa & Lori Love Literacy ™

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Melissa & Lori Love Literacy™ is a podcast for teachers. The hosts are your classroom-next-door teacher friends turned podcasters learning with you. Episodes feature top literacy experts and teachers who are putting the science of reading into practice. Melissa & Lori bridge the gap between the latest research and your day-to-day teaching.


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  • Making Words Stick with Molly Ness and Katie Pace MIles
    Jun 20 2025

    Episode 229

    In this episode, Katie Pace Miles and Molly Ness define and explain orthographic mapping as a crucial cognitive process for reading fluency and comprehension. They discuss the importance of mapping words in long-term memory, the difference between memorization and mapping, and the trifecta of phonology, orthography, and meaning that supports effective word learning.

    They share a four-step protocol from their new book, Making Words, Stick, for supporting orthographic mapping. They provide insights into effective teaching strategies and resources available for educators.

    Resources

    • Making Words Stick - Molly & Katie’s book!
    • Making Words Stick One Pager - Preview the Big Ideas in the book!
    • Katie’s Non-Profit - Readinginstitutenyc.org
    • Rosenthal & Ehri 2008 Study
    • The Science of Learning to Read Words - Ehri
    • Grapheme-Phoneme Knowledge - Ehri
    • Laura Steacy’s research


    We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.

    Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.

    Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

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    51 mins
  • Helping Students Read Multisyllabic Words with Devin Kearns
    Jun 6 2025

    Episode 228

    If you’ve ever wondered how to help your students decode longer words, this episode is for you! We’re joined by literacy researcher and professor Devin Kearns to talk all about teaching multisyllabic words.

    Many phonics programs focus on single-syllable words, but what happens when students hit big words and get stuck? Devin unpacks the research behind why that happens and what we can do instead. We talk about:

    • flexible decoding strategies,
    • when and how to teach syllables and morphemes,
    • and what “set for variability” really looks like in the classroom (spoiler: it’s not guessing!).

    You’ll walk away with practical, research-backed ideas to help your students read longer words with confidence.

    Devin M. Kearns, Ph.D., is the Goodnight Distinguished Professor in Early Literacy at NC State, where he studies early reading and collaborates with experts in psychology, cognitive science, and neuroscience to explore the brain basis of reading.


    RESOURCES

    • Helping Students With Dyslexia Read Long Words: Using Syllables and Morphemes by Devin M. Kearns and Victoria M. Whaley
    • Following the Rules in an Unruly WritingSystem: The Cognitive Science ofLearning to Read Englishby Devin M. Kearns and Matthew J. Cooper Borkenhagen
    • Syllable Division: New Data that Can Inform Intervention by Joanne Marttila Pierson, Ph.D., CCC-SLP
    • On Eating Elephants and Teaching Syllabication by Tim Shanahan


    We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.

    Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.

    Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

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    53 mins
  • Revisiting Fluency Instruction and Assessment with Jan Hasbrouck
    May 30 2025

    Episode 227

    In this episode, Jan Hasbrouck discusses the critical components of reading fluency, focusing on automaticity and its measurement through words correct per minute (WCPM). The discussion highlights the relationship between fluency and comprehension, the role of oral reading fluency in assessing student progress, and the importance of frequent assessments in the classroom. Jan also reflects on recent research findings from NAEP scores that challenge previous assumptions about fluency and automaticity, emphasizing the need for educators to adapt their understanding and practices based on evolving research. The discussion also touches on the debate between repeated reading and wide reading, advocating for an approach to reading instruction that incorporates both methods. Hasbrouck encourages educators to embrace continuous learning and adapt their teaching strategies based on evolving research.

    Resources

    • Hasbrouck Tindal 2017 ORF Norms Chart
    • 2018 NAEP Oral Reading Fluency Study by White, S., et. al.
    • Listen to more Melissa & Lori podcast episodes on Fluency!


    We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.

    Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.

    Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

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    54 mins
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Definitely listen to this if you "give a crud about kids learning to read," quote from Brett. I love the work the Our Dyslexic Children group is doing to improve literacy. This is the first time listening to this podcast and I will most certainly be back! Thank you doing this important work!

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