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  • How music marketing will change in 2025 – with Liam James Ward of Something Something
    Jan 14 2025

    Ep. 164: Music marketing is always changing - and yet the fundamentals stay the same. So what's going to change in 2025 – and how can you change your strategy to make sure you keep cutting through? Liam James Ward is CEO/co-founder of social/digital music marketing agency Something Something, and he joins Music Ally's Joe Sparrow to look ahead.

    And it's not just a bunch of hand-waving predictions – Liam digs into shifts he sees coming around some fundamental concepts:

    • What does and doesn't work today and how to think about marketing ROI
    • How the "vibe marketing" we saw in 2024 was perhaps an attempt to get feeling and curatorship back to the core of the fan experience
    • How truly-useful online fan communities are actually about medium-term nurturing instead of trying to leap all the way down the funnel from virality to superfandom
    • How niche tastemakers are back and more powerful than before (and why you should partner with them)
    • How fans are seeking the feeling of being genuinely connected to friends and fellow fans on social media
    • ... and there's a lot more in this Music Ally Focus episode, made in collaboration with Something Something

    Liam also talks about the tech and platforms he sees increasing – and decreasing – in influence, and the kind of "big artist" strategies that anyone, regardless of size or fanbase, can use.

    Something Something: somethingsomething.social


    Guns N' Roses – Appetite For Destruction: youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n13hmdsIozcCRyaY4cRDuuviphpfbzPrw&si=rbiGgZpb71x-8Rcs

    Music Ally Co-Labs: musically.com/music-ally-co-labs


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  • Retraining for new roles in the music industry – with Music Ally COO Patrick Ross
    Nov 8 2024
    Ep. 163: The jobs market in the music industry is changing fast: it's not just artists who are decoupling from the traditional industry businesses, it's the industry workers too. Not only have various major players laid off significant percentages of their workforce, but some artists and teams are seeking smaller, nimbler companies to do niche tasks. So we got Music Ally COO Patrick Ross on the show to chat about what this means for people: how to up-skill, re-train and branch out; how to recognise the opportunities this brings. Spoiler: now is a better time than ever to learn new abilities and make them into a creative career. ------ 👋 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Knowledge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Music Ally’s free weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠musically.lnk.to/knowledgepo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉 FREE Amazon Music for Artists courses & certification: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.musically.com/courses/amazon-music-for-artists/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎉 You may be eligible for a FREE Music Ally subscription, worth over £450/year, via our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠corporate and sponsored subscriptions⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. If you work for a DSP, a major label, an indie label, or if you’re an artist manager, an employee of a CMO or a publisher, check here to see if you’re eligible: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠musically.com/subscription-options⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ⓜ️ Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Music Ally⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'s industry-leading analysis, reporting and news: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠musically.com/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/musicallybiz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/musically⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/musicallyfb⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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  • Music-tech today and tomorrow: Stuart Dredge gets past the hype, gets to grips with Music AI, and gets excited about music fintech, music ecotech, and music healthtech
    Oct 10 2024

    Ep. 162: It's always a Very Special Episode when Music Ally's Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge, joins the Focus podcast, and lo, Stu chats to Joe Sparrow in depth about AI (of course!), music fintech, music ecotech, music healthcare tech and more!

    This episode is part of Music Ally's annual music-tech Insight Report, available to Music Ally subscribers.

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  • Selling direct-to-fan and making money even when you're an emerging artist: Mag Rodriguez of D2C platform Even talks about the future of artist commerce
    Sep 30 2024

    Ep. 161: Direct to Consumer is a model that most artists, of all sizes, are now prioritising. But which type of artist does this approach work – and not work – for? Mag Rodriguez, CEO/founder of D2C platform Even – which has the tagline "Buy The Art From The Artist" – talks to Music Ally's Editor Joe Sparrow about how artists can use this business model to generate money.

    He says that artists can make more money from a new release this way than on a streaming platform, sometimes even before that release reaches the DSP.

    Joe and Mag also talk about artists using fan data, how emerging artists with small fanbases can make D2C work, and how to treat superfans in a way that feels fair, while maximising income for artists and the experience for fans?

    Even: https://get.even.biz

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  • Marketing Focus: Lainey Wilson, The Cardigans, and Peggy Gou's recent campaigns analysed
    Sep 18 2024

    Ep. 160: A marketing-focused episode – Sarah Seukeran analyses three recent notable campaigns and activations from Lainey Wilson, The Cardigans, and Peggy Gou. Featured are campaigns that combine local weather data with music streaming, showcase a good way of getting catalogue to connect with The Kids on TikTok, and encourage fans to design localised merch. It's ideal if you're trying to find good ideas to try out in your own music campaigns!

    1. Lainey Wilson:



    2. The Cardigans:

    https://pro.musically.com/weekly-round-up-21-aug-2024/

    3. Peggy Gou:

    https://pro.musically.com/weekly-round-up-3/

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  • Making money as a local venue in 2024: Dhruv Chopra, founder of Brooklyn venue Elsewhere, talks memberships, building community, and how Gen Z gig-goers want more than cheap beer
    Aug 30 2024

    Ep. 159: Dhruv Chopra, co-founder/CEO of Brooklyn venue Elsewhere, joins Joe Sparrow to talk about finding new ways of running local independent venues. Dhruv and Elsewhere are reaching around to find a new business model in a new gig-going world. Today, music is consumed, created, performed, played, discovered, experienced and valued differently – and yet, the basics of live music are the same: a group of people in a room while some music happens.

    So Elsewhere is trying something that is both the same, and yet different – by exploring what a local live music venue can be in 2024, and how it can make money. The model that they have landed on involves a subscription membership, a digital Discord community, and a real-life “cultural epicentre”. It’s perhaps all the things that local venues have always been, but with more explicitly-defined models and platforms.

    Dhruv also talks about the state of the small venue ecosystem in a post-pandemic era, when young consumers are demanding more from their live experiences than cheap beer, and $150 stadium show tickets are monopolising the budget of gig-goers.

    Elsewhere: https://www.elsewhere.club

    Dhruv's music pick: Herbie Hancock, Michael Brecker & Roy Hargrove - Directions In Music - Live At Massey Hall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8nB_kzUf2w

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  • Dirty Hit's Jamie Oborne on managing The 1975, trusting your artists' instincts, and how the power of cringe helps to choose what not to do
    Aug 7 2024
    Ep. 158: When Jamie Oborne's career as a musician ended, he decided that the second best thing was to be an artist manager. He also decided that he'd stay independent, write contracts different to the one's he'd signed, and work closely with his artists. Twenty years on, Oborne's approach seems to have worked well enough: he runs management company All On Red and indie label Dirty Hit; both of which have a host of globally successful acts, most notably The 1975. Jamie joined Music Ally's editor Joe Sparrow to discuss his career and his thoughts of the future of management: how the role will change and the shifting responsibilities of a manager in an era where you can do it all in-house. They also talked about how artists – from DIY to arena-level – are aiming to create a D2C business model; how managers should trust their artists' decisions and work with them to nurture their instincts yourself; and what advice he'd have given himself when he was starting out in management. Jamie also shared some of his favourite current artists that he's working with: Saya Gray: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4EnymklUyqZwvmHQGlRssl Bleachers: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2eam0iDomRHGBypaDQLwWI beabadoobee: https://open.spotify.com/artist/35l9BRT7MXmM8bv2WDQiyB The 1975: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3mIj9lX2MWuHmhNCA7LSCW Jamie's music pick(s): Rolling Stones – Sticky Fingers: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kd9KDl7SAnHcZABxeLCU3JDz2oQmUEeZo The Smiths – Meat is Murder: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mz0YHCuq_IeMVDk67mtgUccsBqg-DOzvM The Stone Roses: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kmlwGGQH_U-X7qCB0Vn6H6VnNqp4swuGY ------ 👋 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Knowledge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Music Ally’s free weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠musically.lnk.to/knowledgepo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉 FREE Amazon Music for Artists courses & certification: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.musically.com/courses/amazon-music-for-artists/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎉 You may be eligible for a FREE Music Ally subscription, worth £399/year, via our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠corporate and sponsored subscriptions⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. If you work for a DSP, a major label, an indie label, or if you’re an artist manager, an employee of a CMO or a publisher, check here to see if you’re eligible: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠musically.com/subscription-options⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ⓜ️ Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Music Ally⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠'s industry-leading analysis, reporting and news: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠musically.com/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/musicallybiz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/musically⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/musicallyfb⁠⁠⁠
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  • Livestreaming in 2024: what do artists and fans want from it now? And what about superfans? On Air CEO Jakub Krampl explains
    Jul 25 2024

    Ep 157: Cast your mind back to 2020, when public spaces were shut down and the world suddenly felt insular and closed. Live-streaming became wildly popular overnight – in fact this podcast began in these circumstances – and many apps and platforms appeared and disappeared to feed the need for watching live events from our homes.

    A mere four years later, and live-streaming has matured and the froth has died down. So what is the space like now that it is no longer the buzzword of the moment? How healthy is the livestream ecosystem today compared to the frothy ecosystem a few years ago? And How are artists using live-streaming now? And what do audiences and superfans really want from livestreaming now that they can go to gigs again?
    Jakub Krampl, founder and CEO of music livestreaming company On Air talks to us about where live-streaming is in 2024, and what artist teams and audiences really want from live streams and recordings of their favourite artist.

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    Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains the Same (Madison Square Garden 1973): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtVKz0rv4cg

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