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  • Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway explore the most interesting topics in finance, markets and economics. Join the conversation every Monday and Thursday.

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  • Is This the End of the US Exceptionalism Trade?
    Apr 17 2025

    For years and years now, there has been one winning trade: Go long the US versus the rest of the world. Thanks to tech dynamism and general pro-growth US macro policies, American assets have far outstripped their global peers. Of course, there have been some bumps along the way, but they've usually been global bumps. The financial crisis in 2008-2009 was global. Covid was a shock for the entire world. But with Trump's tariffs, we are now looking at a story that has the potential to be US-specific, even if a trade war will be felt internationally. And so investors are asking the question of whether US exceptionalism has come to an end, and there may be better opportunities elsewhere. On this episode we speak with Ozan Tarman, vice chair of global macro at Deutsche Bank. He tells us what his clients are thinking about and the various scenarios whereby US assets continue to underperform. We also discuss the implications of the US becoming more EM-like in its politics, and its financial markets.

    Read More: End of 'America First' Trade Is Boosting Europe's Markets
    The World Is Finding a Plausible Alternative to Treasuries

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    38 mins
  • Javier Blas on China's Rare Earths Dominance
    Apr 15 2025

    Every time there is tension between the US and China, there are stories about China threatening to withhold exports of rare earth metals, which are supposedly crucial for all kinds of advanced technologies. In this episode, recorded in Bloomberg's London studio, Bloomberg Opinion columnist Javier Blas helps us clear up some misconceptions about them. For one thing, rare earths aren't actually that rare. Furthermore, the amount of global trade of these minerals is fairly minuscule. The US only imports $170 million worth in a year. And then beyond that, the most common usage of them is in vacuum cleaners. Still, their economics are interesting and they do have some important applications. In addition, we talk about what the trade war means for the domestic US energy agenda, and the Trump administration's desire to expand total output.

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    Chinese Rare Earth Shipments Held Up as Trade War Upends Exports
    Javier Blas: $50-a-Barrel Oil Is a Problem for US Trade Deficit

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    31 mins
  • What an American Stove Maker Wants You to Know About US Manufacturing
    Apr 14 2025

    One of the ironies of the tariffs is that, while ostensibly the goal is to reshore US manufacturing, it's actually been US makers of physical goods themselves that have warned about the damage that trade barriers can cause. Or, to put it another way, if we really want to see more domestic US production in order to decouple from China, then perhaps there are other levers to pull besides the tariffs. On this episode of the podcast, we speak with Sam D'Amico, the founder and CEO of California-based Impulse Labs, which makes an amazing induction oven. We talk about what the tariffs mean for his business, and the various things, including capital markets and NIMBYism, that really stand as impediments to building out mass US production of goods.

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    The High-Tech Stove That’s Also a Home Battery
    Everything You Need to Know About the Basis Trade Spooking Markets

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Excellent Discussion and Topic

Very informative. Actually, it was a fascinating discussion. It is a catalyst for much thought on the future of warehousing and logistics outsourcing.

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Excellent discussion

This was a really good discussion of some of the basic psychology and micro economics at play in the crypto market, and markets more broadly.

Sam Bankman-Fried’s realness is always refreshing.

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