Kiernan takes us to the City of Lights—Paris!—for a magical trip from French Impressionists to the gargoyles of Notre Dame. Plus, how to read stained glass like comic books and take home some museum-quality taxidermy. And Ryan reflects on the passing of Edmund White.

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys share their insider knowledge on how to lock down fantastic trips and deals even if you’re a little late to the party. Hidden National Parks, secret city hideaways, and booking schemes await!

Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:

Julie Klausner

https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/how-was-your-week/

Boop the Musical

https://boopthemusical.com/

North Cascades

https://www.nps.gov/noca/index.htm

Isle Royale

https://www.nps.gov/isro/index.htm

Great Sand Dunes

https://www.nps.gov/grsa/index.htm

Mesa Verde

https://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm

Badlands

https://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm

Rapid City Sculptor episode

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/city-of-presidents-with-james-van-nuys/id1438098925?i=1000451011128

Canyonlands

https://www.nps.gov/cany/index.htm

Bear Ears National Monument

https://www.blm.gov/visit/bears-ears-national-monument

Great State Parks episode

https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/

Great State Parks NYT article

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/travel/state-parks-visit-colorado-nc-florida.html

Google Flights “Explore” function

https://www.google.com/travel/explore

Skyscanner “Explore Everywhere” function

https://www.skyscanner.com/transport/flights-from/us/?adultsv2=1&cabinclass=economy&childrenv2=&ref=home&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&oym=2507&iym=2507

AirBNB Experiences announcement

https://news.airbnb.com/airbnb-2025-summer-release/

The Walker Library of the History of Human Imagination

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_the_History_of_Human_Imagination

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Romania—visiting Bucharest, Brașov, and Cluj-Napoca. Expect puppets, dictator mansions, and steampunk exhibits along the way.

Things We Talked About In Today's Episode:

- Ceaușescu Mansion

https://timharford.com/2024/04/cautionary-tales-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-megalomaniac/

- Palace of the Parliament

- "Dimitrie Gusti" National Village Museum

- Carturesti Verona