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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

By: Persephonica and Global Optimism
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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.


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This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.

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Episodes
  • COP30: Can Brazil deliver a global breakthrough?
    Jun 5 2025

    This November, Brazil will host COP30 in Belém, on the edge of the Amazon rainforest, in what is bound to be a moment packed with symbolism, high expectations, and global significance. This week, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson explore what’s at stake, what Brazil wants to achieve, and whether the world is ready to move from ambition to implementation.


    Back from his recent trip to the country, Tom shares conversations with COP CEO Ana Toni and Gustavo Westmann from the office of the Brazilian Presidency, along with insights and impressions he picked up on the ground - from the growing political momentum to the logistical and diplomatic hurdles still to be overcome. Plus, he introduces the team to the concept of mutirão - this COP’s ambition that the path to climate action be built collectively, and through shared effort, cooperation, and solidarity.


    With Brazil readying itself to be the focus of the world’s media later this year, we ask: can COP30 be a breakthrough moment for fossil fuel phaseout, nature protection, and delivery on past promises? Or will it risk becoming another high-profile summit weighed down by old divisions and new distractions?



    Learn more


    🗺️ Get the latest COP30 updates and insights from the official website


    💡 Start exploring the Outrage + Optimism archive by listening to our Lifelines VS Deadlines miniseries, co-hosted by Global Optimism’s Fiona Macklin, whom you heard from at the end of this episode


    🎤 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on SpeakPipe



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    Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

    Video Producer: Caitlin Hanrahan

    Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford

    Commissioning Editor: Sarah Thomas


    This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    59 mins
  • Sovereignty and Survival: A Spotlight on Vanuatu
    May 29 2025

    How far would you go to protect your home?


    In this week’s special episode, Christiana Figueres brings us a deeply personal and political dispatch from Vanuatu - a country on the frontlines of the climate crisis and at the heart of one of the most significant climate justice initiatives of our time.


    In conversations with voices from government (Minister Ralph Regenvanu), climate diplomacy (Christopher Bartlett), youth leadership and advocacy (Litiana Kalsrap), and the arts (Jean-Pascal Wahe), Christiana explores the legacy of colonisation, the meaning of land and sovereignty, and the moral power of a nation that is doing everything it can to protect its people and its planet.


    Alongside Paul Dickinson, she also considers Vanuatu’s history as a climate leader and the decades-long struggle for loss and damage. Plus, they begin to unpack the landmark ICJ case that Vanuatu has initiated, and which we will be exploring further in future episodes.


    How is this island nation persevering in the face of rising seas and extreme weather? And what does the world owe to those who have done the least to cause our current crisis?



    This episode features songs recorded by Christiana in the village of Imaki, on Tanna island, and additional wildlife recordings from Vanuatu by Dominik M. Ramík.



    Learn more


    🍠 Jean-Pascal Wahe telling Christiana what it means to be ‘chief of the yam’, on our social media (coming soon!)


    ⚖️ Information about the ICJ climate case on the Pacific Islands Students Fighting Climate Change website


    🎤 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on SpeakPipe



    Follow us on social media for behind the scenes moments and to watch our videos:


    Instagram @outrageoptimism

    LinkedIn @outrageoptimism


    Or get in touch with us via this form.


    Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

    Video Producer: Caitlin Hanrahan

    Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford

    Commissioning Editor: Sarah Thomas


    This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • When Business Is Political: Climate commitments in an age of backlash
    May 22 2025

    As the US federal government drifts further into anti-climate rhetoric and abandons its national and international commitments, can non-state actors hold the line?


    With Christiana Figueres away in Vanuatu, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson take the reins to explore how climate progress is increasingly being driven by - or being left to - businesses and non-profits. They unpack the mounting challenges facing climate-aligned companies, the promise and complexity of existing voluntary initiatives, and the role that the private sector can play in driving innovation, accountability, and ambition in the absence of strong national leadership.


    Later, they speak with Helen Clarkson, CEO of the Climate Group, about the shifting reality for businesses trying to lead on climate in the US and beyond. And they ask her to address some of the rumours surrounding Climate Week NYC: Is it happening? Will it definitely be held in New York? And how can it become a beacon of action in an age of political uncertainty?


    Plus: Tom and Paul consider the upcoming ruling in a ground-breaking climate liability case with potentially seismic impacts.



    Learn more


    ⚖️ Details and documents on the Luciano Lliusya v. RWE EG legal case


    🛢️ ‘Scientists Tally Oil Majors’ Climate Damage With Eye to Legal Liability’ in Bloomberg


    🛑 ‘The End of Rule of Law in America’ by J. Michael Luttig, in The Atlantic


    📺 ‘Every day I have been shocked and disgusted’ - J. Michael Luttig on MSNBC


    🌎 Find out more about Climate Week NYC, or the Climate Group’s RE100 and EV100



    Follow us on social media for behind the scenes moments and to watch our videos:


    Instagram @outrageoptimism

    LinkedIn @outrageoptimism


    Or get in touch with us via this form.


    Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

    Video Producer: Caitlin Hanrahan

    Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford

    Commissioning Editor: Sarah Thomas


    This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    54 mins
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