Owner To Owner Podcast

By: Michael Kerr
  • Summary

  • Owner to Owner is the boldest business podcast for Australia’s SMEs. Host Michael Kerr gets raw and real, talking to business owners like you. Exploring the everyday struggles they face and the different pathways they tread to success. Forget the slick stories of tech titans and out-of-reach solutions from people who’ve never put their hopes and livelihood on the line. Owner to Owner dives into the wins and losses, pitfalls, luck and moments that made a difference. You’ll find grit, laughs, maybe a few tears and hard-won lessons only available from others who’ve been where you are—whatever your stage of ownership. Every business owner has a compelling story to share. Join us to listen and learn.
    2025 Owner To Owner Podcast
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Episodes
  • Bill Withers 3x business founder and author of breakthrough book Succession Thinking on building resilient SMEs
    May 5 2025

    @bill withers is founder of @the Adapt Way and author of 'Succession Thinking'.

    In this conversation, Michael and Bill discuss the challenges and strategies for building resilient businesses, emphasizing the importance of shifting from a short-term profit mindset to a long-term vision.

    Bill shares his journey from a challenging upbringing in #Kununurra to becoming a successful entrepreneur and business leader. The conversation delves into key themes;

    • the importance of stewardship in small and medium enterprises (SMEs),
    • the lessons learned from selling his business Acquire,
    • the vision behind his current venture, ADAPT, which aims to support SME owners in building resilient businesses,
    • the need for leadership development within SMEs, and
    • the significance of creating a supportive community for business owners.

    They explore the need for;

    1. Role clarity,
    2. Trust in business culture, and
    3. The legislative changes required to support small and medium enterprises (SMEs).

    Bill highlights the significance of decision-making infrastructure and the need to rethink capital distribution to empower SMEs.

    The discussion culminates in the idea that business owners should focus on creating options and flexibility rather than viewing selling as the only exit strategy.

    Takeaways;

    • Stewardship is crucial for the success of SMEs.
    • Business owners often feel overwhelmed and isolated.
    • Leadership development is essential for SME growth.
    • The sale of a business should be approached strategically.
    • Bill's upbringing influenced his passion for supporting SMEs.
    • ADAPT aims to create a supportive community for business owners.
    • The distribution of wealth and power is vital for a healthy economy.
    • Business owners need to clarify their roles for better outcomes.
    • Building capabilities is key to successful business ownership. It's a binary thing; working hard doesn't guarantee success.
    • Return on vision is often more important than return on investment.
    • Building a resilient business requires new practices and habits.
    • Role clarity is essential for effective decision-making.
    • Trust is the key to optimizing business culture.
    • SMEs need different legislation than large corporations.
    • Capital distribution must be rethought to support SMEs.
    • Culture is built on trust and authenticity.
    • Business owners should focus on choices, not just selling.
    • Maximizing the probability of achieving business goals is crucial.

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    @Michael Kerr

    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    58 mins
  • Jaryd Krause online business M&A advisor has a smart strategy to help grow your offline business
    Apr 30 2025

    @jaryd krause is an Online Business M&A Advisor with deep experience growing 7 & 8 Figure Online Businesses. In this discussion we talk about the huge potential for offline business owners to leverage online assets for grow, and also how to take advantage of the opportunities.

    Jaryd shares his personal back story. From starting as a plumbing apprentice to becoming a leading M&A advisor in Online Businesses.

    The conversation covers how traditional businesses can;

    • leverage online platforms
    • resolve major business challenges, including lead generation
    • create new revenue streams
    • save time and resources with a smart acquisition

    We also talk about;

    • Why marketplaces like @Flippa are valuable resources for buying online businesses
    • the evolution of business models and the opportunities being created as a consequence
    • the critical aspects of assessing online business opportunities
    • learning from past mistakes, and strategies for small business growth
    • the significance of mentorship and the need for small businesses to innovate and share best practices for success
    • assessing financials and traffic sources when buying online businesses

    Chapters

    00:00Introduction to Online Business Acquisition

    02:59Jared's Journey from Plumbing to Online Business

    06:09The Synergy of Online and Offline Businesses

    08:56Acquisition Strategies for Business Growth

    11:46Leveraging Online Assets for Offline Success

    15:06Exploring Marketplaces for Online Business Acquisition

    18:01Understanding Business Valuation and Multiples

    21:10Navigating the Online Business Landscape

    23:51The Future of Business: Online and Offline Integration

    26:42Diversifying Business Models

    32:06Assessing Online Business Opportunities

    36:03Learning from Mistakes in Acquisitions

    40:12Strategies for Small Business Growth

    44:05Empowering Small Businesses for Success

    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    52 mins
  • Gabe Enslin from The Adapt Way on building thriving businesses that don't need their owners
    Mar 28 2025

    @gabe enslin from @the adapt way and @michael kerr discuss the importance of building resilience in small and medium businesses. They explore Gabe's diverse background, the Adapt mission, and the critical role of business owners in shaping their companies' futures.

    The conversation covers;

    • the need for owners to clarify what they want from their business and then align their business strategies accordingly
    • the importance of resilience, culture, and role clarity

    Gabe shares case studies of successful business transformations, emphasizing the need for a high-performance culture and effective ownership frameworks. They explore the vision for the future of ADAPT, along with policy recommendations to support SMEs.

    The discussion highlights the significance of understanding employee needs and fostering an engaging work environment to drive business success.

    Some key takeaways;

    1. Many owners desire time back rather than just growth.
    2. Understanding the owner's vision is key to business success.
    3. Clarity of purpose can transform business strategies.
    4. Resilient businesses are more valuable than those set up solely for sale.
    5. The impact of a business extends beyond financial metrics.
    6. Owners often want to contribute positively to their communities.
    7. Effective communication of desires is essential for business alignment. Having clear conversations about what you want is crucial.
    8. Building a resilient infrastructure enables sustainable growth.
    9. Cultural metrics can improve even during rapid growth.
    10. Role clarity is essential for high-performing teams.
    11. Engaged employees lead to better business performance.
    12. Creating a high-quality entry for new hires is vital.
    13. Understanding employee aspirations enhances retention.
    14. Partnerships can alleviate the loneliness of business ownership.

    "It has to start with the owner"

    "What do you want?"

    "I want time back"

    Chapters

    00:00Introduction to the Owner to Owner Podcast

    01:46Gabe Enslin's Journey and Background

    12:51Understanding the ADAPT Way

    16:12The Importance of Owner's Vision

    20:01Identifying Owner's True Desires

    22:49Aligning Business Strategy with Owner's Goals

    30:22Building Resilient vs. Sellable Businesses

    33:10Navigating Business Transformation

    34:29Case Studies of Success

    36:56Building Resilience in Business

    38:07The Importance of Culture

    40:33Role Clarity and Employee Engagement

    42:28Creating a High-Performance Culture

    44:33Stewardship and Ownership Dynamics

    46:42Designing Ownership Frameworks

    49:39The Journey of Business Partnerships

    54:29Vision for the Future of ADAPT

    55:31Recommended Reads for Business Owners

    57:02Policy Recommendations for SMEs

    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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