In This session Kalvin talks about his internal failures, and also highlights his success, prompted by his co host Bilal. These two dive into the feelings of being dads, but specifically Black Dads. They also talk about masculine humility energy, and how much they have learned about themselves. Bilal talks about how, for the first time he may be free from ANY judicial entanglement since he was 12 years old. Tune in to these two, lively authentic Black Men, sitting down to just talk and get some things off their chests.

This time they dive into interracial relationships, both being married to white women, with kids, they go into the different cultures of their wives' families, and talk about the blended household cultures and which ones dominate. Join them for an honest conversation in this session, about love, relationships, belief systems, and breaking the cycles of keeping quiet about these important matters of their everyday life.

In this episode, these two dive deep into their insecurities about being black men in the work place. They discuss the importance of providing acitivities for young boys in school, and they explore the notion that it's okay for Black men to cry and express their emotions.

You can also watch these two on the YOUTUBE Channel PIE Talk Podcast, PIE meaning Pursue Internal Evolution