This week, the ultimate chaos agent Jessi Ngatikaura joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about fame, friendship feuds, and what really goes down behind the scenes of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. From business blow-ups to relationship red flags, Jessi doesn’t hold back—and neither do your hosts. 💅

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(00:00:00) 🎥 Behind the Curtain — What Jessi didn’t expect when the show dropped, and how Utah reacted IRL.

(00:04:58) 💇‍♀️ Faith, Hair, and Fallout — Running a business in Utah County, balancing Mormon expectations, and bracing for public backlash.

(00:10:58) 📉 Jen & Zac’s Messy Arc — Church drama, text receipts, and one unexpected redemption arc.

(00:14:50) 💬 Taylor Frankie Paul: Icon or Chaos? — Jessi’s real-life friendship with Taylor, her thoughts on Dakota, and what we didn’t see on camera.

(00:18:30) 💥 Hairgate + Demigeddon — What really went down at Saints & Sinners, and why one healing session couldn’t fix the betrayal.

(00:26:00) 🧪 Layla, Miranda, and the Spicy Cast Additions — Who brought it, who played it safe, and what’s coming next.

(00:32:10) 🔄 Mormon Marriage + Glow-Ups — Jessi on her thyroid surgery, plastic surgery transparency, and the cultural double standards in Utah.

(00:38:40) 🔮 Swinging Culture + Mormon Complications — Upside-down pineapples, spiritual loopholes, and what the church says (or doesn’t) about ketamine.

(00:43:15) ⚔️ Mikayla vs. Whitney — Feuds, fractures, and where Jessi sees it all heading next season.

(00:46:40) 🧁 MomTok Constitution? — Breadwinners, Botox, and redefining Mormon motherhood on TikTok.

(00:50:05) 📣 Viewer DMs Save Lives — How Jessi caught a thyroid issue thanks to vigilant fans, and what her recovery journey looked like.

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Lauren and Chanler spiral through the chaos of quitting corporate life, the psychosis of mushroom pilots, and why Planet Bibi wants you to orgasm for an hour. They unpack Meghan and Harry’s long game (including a 2027 olive branch??), compare two wildly tone-deaf weddings, and read anonymous Hampton confessions that will make you think twice before trusting any Birkin. Plus: what Alex Cooper’s doc revealed, and how a TikTok account inspires Lauren.

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(00:00) 🧠 Chanler’s Meta exit, full-time freedom, and reclaiming her brain

(08:05) ✈️ Plane crash psychosis + how to boof your way out of a nosedive

(13:02) 🍄 Pilot on mushrooms and Lauren’s derealization trip in Mexico

(19:07) 💦 Planet Bibi's 25 orgasms + bedroom ergonomics exposed

(23:04) 🎧 Alex Cooper’s doc, her stalker coach, and becoming a one-woman media empire

(29:01) 🎙️ Meghan Markle ends her podcast (again) + Emma Grede keeps it real

(32:46) 👑 Meghan & Harry’s 2027 olive branch, royal family freeze-out, and Charles shade

(36:55) 💒 Blake’s plantation wedding backlash + Bezos & Lauren’s chaotic Venice plans

(41:01) 📱 Taylor and Blake’s texts ruled admissible—what are they hiding?

(44:46) 🏛️ Daily Dose Donna’s site visit + Blake’s wedding venue in question

(51:21) 💼 Hamptons club debt, fake Birkins, and financial denial in zip code 11937

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This one’s for the girls who grew up on TRL, cried to Fearless, and low-key still know all the words to “He Could Be the One.” Nora Princiotti joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about the evolution of authenticity in pop, Miley’s totally unfiltered bombshells, and whether Taylor Swift might be pulling off the greatest long game in music history.

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📖 Hit Girls by Nora Princiotti

🎧 Every Single Album

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(00:00) 🎤 Introduction — Meet Nora Princiotti and the book that rewrites pop history: Hit Girls.

(04:58) 👩‍🎤 Authenticity in Pop — Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne, and why being “real” became a trap.

(10:22) 🎧 Poptimism vs Rockism — What’s “real music” anyway? We dive into the early 2000s’ biggest culture war.

(19:00) 🌸 Interviewing Miley Cyrus — Nora’s interview with Miley, unfiltered stories, and emotional honesty from the popstar.

(26:00) 💿 Miley Album Recs — Where to start if you’ve only heard “Flowers” and “Party in the U.S.A.”

(36:10) 🎶 “Since U Been Gone” — The story behind Kelly Clarkson’s scream-your-heart-out hit and the pop comeback no one saw coming.

(43:56) 🪩 Taylor Swift — The rerecords, the rage, and her business plays... Did she devalue her own masters on purpose?

(47:58) 👑 Brat Summer & Cowboy Carter — Cultural saturation, chart performance, and what we’re actually listening to.

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