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Kamaru Usman and Kayla Harrison go way back, and now the two friends sit down at the studio to chop it up in a conversation goes all over the map, in the best way possible.

Topics range from weight cut secrets like daily low steady state, Kayla's take on the UFC, her first fight against the legendary Holly Holm, and post-fight lows that most of us fans don't get to see. More specifically to that last point, Kamaru gives us a direct look into what happened in the hours after the infamous head kick; not just how it effected him, but how it impacted his little one as well.

Both Kamaru and Kayla are parents. If you weren't already aware of the unique circumstances that brought Kayla into parenthood, this episode will shed some light on the type of human she is beyond the gold medals and dominant combat career.

Kayla is kind, down to earth and, perhaps most obvious to whoever is reading this, a total badass. She and Kamaru go deep on a number of life subjects. This one is insightful - an unedited look into the minds, character and friendship between two of the UFC's most decorated fighters.

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00:00 - Intro

1:30 - Sparring Days

3:10 - Weight Cuts Secrets

13:10 - Kayla’s Take on UFC

21:45 - Post Fight Blues

26:45 - Parenthood

33:00 - Uncle Ali & Life Lessons

40:00 - Kids can be Scary

44:20 - Unconditional Love

45:10 - BTS of the Head Kick

48:30 - What We Do vs. Who We Are

52:00 - Ketlen Vieira Fight

52:45 - Kamaru’s Advice

57:50 - Nickname Trivia!!!

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Kamaru and Henry catch up on family life before breaking down the stacked 307 card. Stay tuned for Kayla Harrison in studio later this week.

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00:00 - Intro

00:30 - Catching Up

1:20 - Family Life

7:15 - Underdog Fantasy

9:10 - McGee vs. Means

11:30 - Esparza vs. Pennington

13:15 - Spann vs. Saint Preux

15:15 - Almeida vs. Potieria

18:10 - Hubbard vs. Hernandez

20:00 - Rodriguez vs. Lucindo (it's an "i")

22:15 - Thompson vs. Buckley

26:50 - Dolidze vs. Holland

30:55 - Vieira vs. Harrison

37:40 - Pennington vs. Peńa

41:25 - Pereira vs. Rountree

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Daniel Cormier in the studio this week. In a one sentence summary: DC is an all around great human being.

He, Kamaru and Henry have a long history, and this hour-long conversation shows you just how much shared respect these three champions have for one another.

The guys hit it all in this one. DC's time as an NCAA and Olympic force, and the inspiration he was for budding fighters...Henry Cejudo and Kamaru Usman included.

The Cael Sanderson rivalry, or lack thereof, as DC might say. DC's perspective on missing the 2008 Olympics and how it changed his life forever. Deeper on that subject, how does luck, motivation and preparation come together to breed success.

How does showmanship and celebrity change fighter trajectory in the UFC? Speaking of celebrity: Jon Jones. DC discusses the impact that the 'baddest man on earth' (Dana's words) had on his career, we talk Jones' upcoming fight against Stipe, and where the reigning reigning Heavyweight champ sits among global athlete superstars.

DC's palpable friendliness and positivity is even more appreciated when you understand the hardships he carries with him. He opens up about the loss of his daughter, and the mindset and compartmentalization necessary for surviving the heaviest of losses.

Humans at DC's level have a special drive that never fully leaves them. He shares how that drive for growth has translated into life beyond the octagon.

We close this one with some much deserved words of appreciation from Kamaru and Henry - and from all of us fight fans. Thank you, DC.

Enjoy!

00:00 - Intro

3:00 - Uncle DC

6:30 - NCAA and Olympics

10:40 - DC inspires young Kamaru

16:20 - Fake Drugs, Bad Business

20:00 - Cael Sanderson

23:50 - Great Circumstances

26:20 - Tall Guys Fall Harder

33:00 - Public Persona

41:30 - Jon Jones Rivalry

45:10 - Jon Jones = MJ???

48:30 - Words for Francis

51:20 - Brotherly Love

56:00 - What drives DC

1:01:30 - Flowers for DC

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Umar Nurmagomedov. If you've been living under a rock... jot that name down. Henry knows more about the bantamweight division than just about anybody and he'll be the first to tell you: Umar is a bad MF.

On the agenda: fighting on the world stage as a Nurmagomedov, and what's it like to have the 'Khabib' advantage?

How did Umar feel about his 5-rounder against world #4, Kamaru's good friend and training partner Cory Sandhagen?

We also get Umar's prediction for Merab vs. Suga (with the advantage of 20/20 hindsight). And, what's the rising star think about all these Bantamweights ducking him?

The best base for a transition into MMA. The future of the legendary Nurmagomedov gyms. Surpassing Khabib’s records. Tons of good stuff in here.

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00:00 - intro

01:00 - #1 Big Last Name

04:30 - Five Rounds with Cory Sandhagen

10:30 - Suga vs. Merab Prediction

14:20 - Khabib Advantage

19:10 - Next Up: Umar

23:00 - Love of Fighting

27:40 - Underdog Fantasy

28:40 - Ducking Umar

36:50 - Khabib's Training Legacy

38:00 - Best MMA Base

39:00 - Henry's & Kamaru's Words for Umar

45:20 - The Debrief

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UFC 306 REACTION: Down Goes Suga Sean O'Malley + Canelo vs. Berlanga || Pound 4 Pound with Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo

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Merab Dvalishvili is a world class fighter, internet troll, and all around likeable guy. He sits down with P4P before his UFC 306 Title Fight at The Sphere against Sean O'Malley.

The guys get into modern day internet trolling in the UFC - an art that has transcended language barriers and builds rivalry narratives. Remember when Henry learned like two words of Russian to sh*t talk Merab, and Merab went full Mexican pride on stage? Times were so much simpler back then... but really, who doesn't love a good twitter war or tiktok skit.

On a more serious note, a big debate on early stoppages and referee interjections ensues. There's been a few referee debacles this year to say the least. In all fairness, the P4P team couldn't even agree on a perspective... though that's pretty typical for us over here.

So, what if Merab wins? Umar, a trip up to his friend Ilia, a rematch for Triple C? We cover it.

Closing remarks from Henry with some insider tips and tricks from his experience with Suga, and then a good ol' debrief with the guys.

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00:00 - Intro

1:30 - Elephant in the Room

5:24 - Suga Sean Fight

11:46 - Troll Recognize Troll

19:40 - Avenging Aljo

21:30 - Premature Stoppages...a Debate

28:30 - Underdog Fantasy

33:14 - Merab on Umar

40:29 - The Cut

44:30 - Merab on Ilia

48:19 - Final Words for Suga Fight

50:20 - Rematch???

51:00 - Debrief

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Today's bonus episode features the one and only: SUGA Sean O'Malley. And it doesn't even take a full minute for the sh*t to hit the fan...

Watch and see for yourself.

After what might be the fastest interview in UFC history, Henry airs it all out. For conciseness' sake, we'll title that section a breakdown of the Sean vs. Merab bout, but enjoy all of the extra drama that comes along with it. Unshockingly, Kamaru and Henry have two different predictions for the title fight at UFC 306 Riyadh Season Noche.

Henry also has some big news about his plans for Flyweight - a sure thing unless one potential scenario comes out of this weekend...

After a wild first 15, we get into the rest of the Main Card at UFC 306, where our cohosts continue to battle back and forth on predicted outcomes. Who you riding?

Special end segment dedicated to Canelo and Edgar Berlanga who also fight this weekend for Mexican Independence day. You heard it from Kamaru first; Saturday night is a fight fan's dream.

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00:00 - Intro

00:20 - Suga Sean

01:00 - Uhhhh...

01:50 - Henry Sean Beef

04:00 - Henry's Move to Flyweight

4:40 - Sean vs. Merab Breakdown

14:25 - Alexa Grasso vs. Valentina Shevchenko

19:56 - Brian Ortega vs. Diego Lopes

24:40 - Daniel Zellhuber vs. Esteban Ribovics

27:20 - Ronaldo Rodriguez vs. Ode Osbourne

30:48 - Irene Aldana vs. Norma Dumont

33:05 - Feature and Early Prelims

36:00 - Underdog Fantasy Sports

37:10 - Alvarez vs. Berlanga PPV Breakdown

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We're back with another episode and even more antics... shirts optional this week.

There's been a LOT of chatter around the Welterweight division, and even a...country song diss track?!? Kamaru takes time to address the rumors. We'll let him do the talking on this one.

Last week, Henry was clipped in an interview considering a venture back down to flyweight - Kamaru's got some questions, Henry's got some words for the Flyweight division.

Catching up on things outside the Octagon, Henry is underway with construction of his Arizona duplex, and Kamaru's African Knockout Championship held its 5th Fight Night of the regular season last weekend. AKO talent continues to grow as one AKO fighter, Josias Musasa, was just invited to compete in Dana White's Contender Series.

And, of course, a look at this weekend's UFC Fight Night Burns vs. Brady. For the main and co-main events it's a tale of experience vs. the hungry contender. Spoiler alert, the guys aren't seeing eye to eye on this one.

Enjoy!

00:00 - Intro

00:30 - Henry's Duplex Plans

02:10 - African Knockout Championship

05:40 - Henry's Thoughts On a Flyweight Return

08:20 - Kamaru Addresses Welterweight Drama

12:55 - Underdog Picks

14:20 - Burns vs. Brady

20:40 - Silva vs. Andrade

24:20 - Questions from a Casual

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