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What if AI could save more than it costs? Join us as we tackle this provocative question with our signature mix of insight and humour. The episode kicks off with an exploration of the monumental strides in AI, highlighting Google's groundbreaking transformer model and OpenAI's cutting-edge developments despite its hefty price tag for queries. We delve into the promising innovations by Google and others, aiming to mimic human memory processes. These advancements promise to resolve current AI inefficiencies, potentially revolutionizing how AI processes information sustainably.

Journey with us through the intricacies of large language models and their impact on our conversations. Discover how these models, while powerful, can be influenced by the phrasing of questions, aligning with user expectations and sometimes veering off course in agentic tasks. Trust is paramount as we foresee AI gradually taking over human tasks, but only if confidence in these systems is solidified. The episode sheds light on the delicate balance of integrating AI into everyday life while minimizing errors that could undermine trust.

In part 2 of our interview with researcher Kristy Loke the global stage of AI governance takes center stage as we unpack China's innovative regulatory framework and its quest to align with global standards. Our discussions compare and contrast the EU's AI Act, the U.S.'s disjointed regulations, and China's evolving policies, offering insights into how these approaches might shape future governance worldwide. Lastly, we consider the harmonious blend of Eastern wisdom and Western technological ambition, a poetic reflection on the quest for equilibrium between rapid innovation and timeless principles. Join us for a thought-provoking journey into the future of AI.

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Jimmy and Matt scramble into the AI bunker to sound the alarm with an urgent, emergency episode.

In the past week an emerging model from a relatively unknown Chinese developer, DeepSeek, has redefining the entire landscape of AI. At the same time OpenAI, Donald Trump and a bunch of greedy transhumanist were announcing $600bn to build massive brute force compute data centres based on existing LLM architecture.

With its open-source approach and a completely new method of inference DeepSeek's models showcase capabilities that challenge the most advanced reasoning models like Open AI's o1 at a fraction of the cost. It has literally sent shockwaves around the AI world. This discussion dives deep into the implications of this shift, exploring the what it means for China and the U.S. in AI development, the potential advancements toward AGI, and the democratisation of AI technology.

• DeepSeek emerges as a new open-source model from China
• Comparison of DeepSeek's performance with that of US frontier models
• Discussion on open-source versus closed-source AI strategies
• The implications of DeepSeek's release on geopolitics
• The future of AGI and its ethical considerations
• Risks of existing companies becoming obsolete without innovation
• Potential for increased efficiencies in AI through open-source models
• How chip restrictions could have driven innovation in China

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Discover the transformative power of AI and its profound societal implications with this week's guest, Grace Shao. A distinguished writer and researcher, Grace offers unparalleled insights into global AI infrastructure, unraveling how Chinese big tech firms influence geopolitics while reshaping the global market. Get ready to explore the intriguing phenomenon of "China shedding," where Chinese tech companies strategically rebrand and relocate, often to Singapore, to appeal to international audiences. Through Grace's expertise, we unravel the complexities of Chinese tech innovation and its critical role on the world stage.

We journey through the contrasting AI infrastructure capabilities of the US and China, delving into the strategic advantages China gains through its command economy. As we highlight the challenges posed by energy scarcity in the West, we also ponder the contrasting strides made by China in renewable energy. From the innovations spurred by AI to enhance energy reliability to small modular reactors' potential as a reliable energy source, this discussion promises to shed light on the intricate dynamics of the global tech competition. Join us as we critically assess the interplay of geopolitics, energy, and technology in shaping the future.

We wrap up with a fascinating examination of user interface experiences across cultures, reflecting on how these design nuances shape technology satisfaction. From corporate strategies of Chinese tech firms navigating US restrictions to the evolving landscape of AI models, we cover the entire spectrum of innovation and adaptation. Debate emerges as we explore the philosophical clash between East and West, urging a shared human experience as a bridge for understanding. With a promise of thought-provoking insights and engaging discussions, this episode is a must-listen for those curious about the future of AI and its societal impact.

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