Jamie Lee Curtis joins Jon Bernthal for a conversation that begins with Jamie discussing her role in the film "Borderlands," touching on the unusual character trait of objectum sexuality. The discussion then shifts to Jamie's personal journey with addiction and recovery. She candidly shares her experience of realizing she had a problem with opioids and her decision to get sober. Jamie details the pivotal moments that led to this decision, and she explores the impact of recovery on her life, discussing how it has changed her perspective and helped her understand herself and her family better.

They discuss her family history, talking about her parents' experiences in Hollywood and how fame affected them, leading to a broader conversation about the challenges of expressing genuine emotions, especially given her upbringing in the entertainment industry. The conversation touches on aging in Hollywood, with Jamie sharing her thoughts on potential retirement and her approach to her career as she gets older. She discusses the rejecting nature of the industry and how she's learned to handle it, and shares an impactful anecdote about meeting a pediatric burn unit nurse, using this to highlight the importance of maintaining perspective in life and in the entertainment industry.

Throughout the interview, Jamie emphasizes the power of honesty, vulnerability, and changing one's perspective. She particularly stresses the importance of replacing the phrase "have to" with "get to" when approaching life's challenges and opportunities.

This powerful episode covers themes of fame, family dynamics, the challenges of the entertainment industry, and the process of personal growth and self-discovery. Jamie's candid and reflective responses provide insight into her experiences as an actress, a person in recovery, and a human navigating complex personal and professional landscapes.

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Jon Bernthal speaks with Will Jimeno, a former Port Authority police officer who survived being trapped for 13 hours under the World Trade Center rubble on September 11, 2001. Jimeno shares his extraordinary story of survival, his challenging journey of physical and emotional recovery, and how he found purpose in the aftermath of tragedy.

Key topics include:

• Will's experience as a rookie cop on 9/11
• The collapse of the towers and 13 hours trapped underground
• The rescue operation and Will's last radio call
• Battling PTSD and the long road to recovery
• Finding meaning and helping others after trauma
• Lessons on resilience, hope, and the human spirit

This episode contains discussions of traumatic events which some listeners may find distressing.

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Dr. Nick Bernthal, Jon's brother and orthopedic oncologist, returns to REAL ONES.

This episode covers:

• Challenges of treating cancer patients and delivering difficult news
• How personal loss influences life and medical practice
• Current state of cancer research and drug discovery
• Balancing a high-pressure career with family life
• Issues of diversity and access in healthcare and education
• Recent experiences with crime and community support in Southern California

The brothers discuss these topics, offering insights into modern medicine, personal growth, and current social issues.

Note: This episode contains discussions of cancer, loss, and medical procedures that some listeners may find sensitive.

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