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REFS NEED LOVE TOO

REFS NEED LOVE TOO

By: David Gerson
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An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside.

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Episodes
  • Navigating the 2025-2026 Laws of the Game with Leland Grant
    Jun 21 2025

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    Soccer's law book undergoes a mini-revolution with the 2025-2026 Laws of the Game, and referee Leland Grant, National Referee Coach and Umpiro founder, breaks down the four most significant changes poised to transform how matches unfold across all levels of play.

    The first major change introduces a powerful new tool for match officials: the captain-only zone. When surrounded by multiple players, referees can now signal for a four-meter exclusion zone where only the designated team captain may approach. This mechanic directly addresses referee harassment, requiring captains to wear proper armbands and take responsibility for communication. Players violating this protected space face yellow cards for dissent, transforming how disputes are managed on the field.

    Perhaps most revolutionary is the guidance around the amount of time a goalkeeper may have possesion. The widely ignored six-second rule transforms into a more practical eight-second limit with an innovative visual countdown. Referees now raise their hand showing five fingers when three seconds have elapsed and count down visually until zero, with violations resulting in a corner kick rather than the previous indirect free kick. This balanced approach promises to eliminate goalkeeper time-wasting while providing clear visual cues to everyone on the field.

    The drop ball procedure receives welcome clarification, allowing referees to use common sense in awarding possession to teams that would have clearly gained the ball, rather than rigidly following the "last touched" principle. The only exception remains within the penalty area, where drop balls always go to the defending goalkeeper regardless of circumstances.

    These changes reflect soccer's commitment to fairness, clarity, and respect while addressing longtime frustrations with inconsistent rule application. While some competitions like MLS will delay implementation until 2026, most leagues worldwide will adopt these changes beginning July 1st.

    Ready to understand these changes more deeply? Visit ussoccer.com/lawsofthegamechanges for videos and detailed explanations that will help you prepare for soccer's new era.

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  • The Base Matters Most: Rethinking Referee Education for the Masses with Matt O'brien
    Jun 14 2025

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  • Life Lessons and Pregame Checklists: Finding Joy On and Off the Pitch
    May 25 2025

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    Ever wonder how to stay passionate while juggling multiple demanding roles? This candid episode dives into the reality of balancing life as a referee, business professional, content creator, and parent during an especially hectic season.

    David shares his journey through a particularly intense period—working full-time in sales and marketing for Hip Hues, running Refs Need Love Too, and preparing for his daughter's high school graduation while managing to referee challenging matches. Rather than feeling overwhelmed, he's discovered a powerful mindset shift that transforms exhaustion into fulfillment: consistently asking "Is what I'm doing getting me closer to my goal?"

    The heart of the episode features a detailed walkthrough of David's newly launched referee cards with comprehensive pregame checklists printed on the back. This innovative tool provides referees with critical reminders about field inspection, coach interactions, substitution procedures, offside considerations, and foul management—all designed to boost confidence and crew cohesion during matches.

    Particularly moving are the letters from the mailbag, including stories of young referees successfully implementing the new referee abuse guidelines and finding their voice on the pitch. These testimonials highlight how proper support systems can transform potentially career-ending negative experiences into powerful growth opportunities.

    David also breaks down his recent experience officiating a challenging UPSL semi-professional match at age 50, complete with 12 cards, 5.7 miles of running, and valuable game management lessons. His account illustrates why pushing beyond comfort zones leads to greater satisfaction and skill development in officiating.

    The episode closes with a poignant reminder about family priorities—with all three of his children home for potentially the last summer together, David emphasizes the importance of seizing these precious moments despite busy schedules.

    Visit the Refs Need Love Too store to check out the new referee cards and other products designed to make your officiating journey more successful and enjoyable. Use code "refsneedlovetoo" for special discounts on partner products from Umpiro and Ref6.

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