Lamar and Tom talk with Kansas State Senator Carolyn McGinn

In today’s podcast Lamar and Tom welcome Kansas State Senator Carolyn McGinn. Senator McGinn has represented the 31st District as a Republican since 2005. Prior to serving in the Kansas Senate, she was a Sedgwick County Commissioner. She and her husband, Mark, own and operate McGinn’s Grapes and Grain, a family farm outside of Wichita, Kansas.

In 2012 Senator McGinn was one of nine Kansas senators whose seats were targeted by members of the “Right Wing” of the Republican party. She was the only one who was able to retain her seat.

In January 2025, Carolyn McGinn will retire from some 26 years in political life. She and Mark will focus their retirement on using their farm to promote agri-tourism. In this interview she reflects on her years in public service and talks with Lamar and Tom about the importance of civil dialogue and discussion in passing legislation to benefit communities.

Learn more about Carolyn McGinn:

• McGinn’s Grapes and Grain - https://www.grapesngrains.farm/

• Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_McGinn

• Carolyn McGinn’s campaign and senate website - https://workingforkansas.com/about/

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Meet Lamar & Tom

Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

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