John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain of the Titanic movie and tells the strange story of how government-imported camels in the 1800's led to ghost sightings in Arizona.

Plus, a conversation about contemplation, and the power our thoughts have over the direction of our lives.

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John ponders old sitcom episodes that tackled important issues (for ratings). Meanwhile, Jonnie compares himself to an old Stephen King movie and reveals the history of the cowboy hat.

Plus, an exclusive interview with CCM legends, Newsboys!

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John critiques the Big Mac and tries to be productive, but only if he can track it on his phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a decade-old video go viral and does a Maypole dance against his Mom’s wishes.

Plus, a conversation about dopamine addiction and the urge to oversimplify problems that need more nuance.

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