"You have to make the mistakes—they cannot take the mistakes for you." — Yossi Appleboum, CEO of SepioIn this episode of Tech Scenes Unplugged, Jeff James Martin sits down with Yossi Appleboum, CEO and Co-founder of Sepio, to explore the mindset and leadership it takes to build a deep-tech company from the ground up. Drawing on his experience in Israel’s Unit 8200 and multiple successful startup exits, Yossi shares the power of tension, the value of mistakes, and how to foster teams that argue fiercely and trust deeply.Sepio’s unique approach to device risk management—leveraging physics, machine learning, and trafficless monitoring—has positioned the company as a leader in asset visibility and control across IT, OT, and IoT. Yossi breaks down what it takes to build a truly interdisciplinary team, how Sepio entered a skeptical market, and why it's not just about building the right product—it's about building the right team to bring it to life.Whether you’re building in cybersecurity, scaling a startup, or evolving as a leader, this conversation brings clarity to the chaos of innovation.TakeawaysDon’t be afraid to make mistakes—they teach more than success.Sepio manages the risk of connected devices with a new, clean data source.Healthy conflict is a sign of team trust—not dysfunction.Teams need both focus and flexibility to thrive.Curiosity and questioning often drive better results than certainty.The most dangerous person is the one who thinks they know everything.Building the right team is as important as building the right product.Innovation happens when tension is acknowledged, not avoided.Chapters00:00 Embracing Mistakes in Innovation00:40 Introduction to Sepio and Its Mission03:07 The Unique Approach to Device Risk Management05:10 Challenges in Technology Development07:10 Market Entry and Initial Misconceptions09:52 Lessons from Past Experiences12:05 Team Dynamics and Collaboration15:01 The Importance of Healthy Conflict16:40 Navigating Team Communication19:26 The Balance of Focus and Flexibility20:50 The Role of Trust in Team Dynamics22:54 The Value of Questions and Curiosity25:41 Reflections on Career and Passion28:51 The Evolution of Leadership Roles32:04 Navigating Market Challenges35:41 Final Thoughts and AdviceLearn more about the book Peak Teams – Mastering the Habit of Unstoppable Venture-backed Companieshttps://a.co/d/hp5JtnuVisit Collective Genius™ to Build Your Venture-backed Team with the Peak Operating System™https://www.collective-genius.com/#collectivegenius #peakoperatingsystem #peakos #techscenes #cybersecurity #founderjourney #venturecapital #iotsecurity #unit8200 #hardwaresecurity #startupleadership #innovation #teamdynamics #deeptech #scalingstartups #entrepreneurship #jeffjamesmartin #yossiappleboum #sepio #leadership