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The Apple and Biscuit Show

The Apple and Biscuit Show

By: Dr Neil Hillman and Jason Nicholas
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Dr. Neil Hillman and Jason Nicholas, two professionals working in film and television sound, discuss the many ways sound is used in moving picture productions to engage, entertain, educate and inform audiences. The podcast covers a range of topics through interviews with industry insiders as well as academics and professionals in other fields who talk about the human understanding and perception of sound.2024 Art
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  • #015 Dead Cats and Fish Poles—The Story of the Basket Windshield
    Jun 3 2025

    In this documentary, Neil looks at the emergence of location sound recording for cinema and one of the significant technological developments that enabled this.

    Starting with the Italian neorealism movement of the late 1940’s, the desire for dialogue authenticity gained hold in 1950’s Hollywood films. This and the artistic truth of French New Wave filmmaking in the 1960’s led to the indispensability of the location sound recordist by the 1970’s and one of their important needs was met by the invention and refinement of the now-familiar microphone basket windshield.

    To help tell the story, Neil plays real-world examples of Outside Broadcast sport; excerpts from classic movies and amateur YouTube filmmakers and also talks with Radius Windshields Managing Director Simon Davies as well as the owner and MD of plastic injection moulding company Elbmar Limited, Keven Rich and the Oscar-winning feature film Production Sound Mixer - and enthusiastic Radius Windshields user - Simon Hayes.

    About the presenters:

    You can find more about Simon Hayes’ work here
    The Radius Windshield site is here

    Details about Neil Hillman and Jason Nicholas’s work as dialogue editors and mixers and how to contact them is here
    Details of our 1-to-1, training and coaching programmes for ambitious media professionals are available at:
    https://www.drneilhillman.com and https://soundproducer.com.au/coaching and www.soundformovingpictures.com

    Technical notes:

    Written, produced and presented by Dr. Neil Hillman – IMDb
    Programme edited and mixed by Dr. Neil Hillman on DaVinci Resolve v20. Recorded on location by Neil using a Sound Devices 664 recorder, with Sennheiser 416 and Sanken COS-11 microphones.

    YouTube fair use disclaimer:
    Where copyrighted material appears in episodes of The Apple and Biscuit Show, it is used under the ‘fair use’ guidelines of the Copyright Act. In instances where copyright or credit is questioned, please contact us directly to discuss receiving credit, or removing the featured content.

    Content:
    02:39 – 03:25 The Bicycle Thieves, (1948), Dir. Vittorio De Sica

    04:25 – 06:24 On the Waterfront, (1954), Dir. Elia Kazan

    06:57 – 07:42 Breathless, (1960), Dir. Jean Luc Goddard

    09:55 – 11:58 The Conversation, (1970), Dir. Francis Ford-Coppola

    19:48 – 21:28 Les Misérables, (2012), Dir. Tom Hooper

    27:52 – 28:50 @MakingParadiseinVA, YouTube channel (2023)

    51:57 – 52:25 Wimbledon, Men’s Singles Final 2024, Alcaraz v Djokovic

    52:30 – 52:38 FIFA World Cup, South Africa 2010

    53:41 – 54:21 Sydney 2000 Olympics, Men’s-8 Rowing Final

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    57 mins
  • #014 Acoustic Ecology with Dr Jesse Budel
    Jun 1 2025

    In this episode Neil and Jason speak with Dr Jesse Budel, a composer-performer, sound artist, academic and arts entrepreneur based in South Australia. As a composer, his works are for diverse media and spaces, ranging from concert works and installations to community and interdisciplinary collaborations. Jesse’s PhD research at the Elder Conservatorium of Music focussed on adapting soundscape ecology to creative process, resulting in a body of works responding to South Australian ecosystems and soundscapes. As an emerging member of the Acoustic Ecology and Ecoacoustic communities, Jesse currently serves as the Secretary for both the Australian Forum for Acoustic Ecology and World Forum for Acoustic Ecology.

    This is a wide ranging interview discussing the history of Soundscape Ecology, as defined by the work of R Murray Schafer and the World Soundscape Project, starting in the 1970’s, through to the present day scientific use of sound for bioacoustic research of natural environments.

    About the presenters:
    You can find more about Jesse and his work here: https://www.jesse-budel.com/about
    Details about Neil and Jason’s work as dialogue editors and mixers and how to contact them is here: https://www.audiosuite.co.uk/
    Details of our 1-to-1, training and coaching programmes for ambitious media professionals are available at:
    https://www.drneilhillman.com and https://soundproducer.com.au/coaching and www.soundformovingpictures.com

    Further reading and links:

    • The World Soundscape Project: https://www.sfu.ca/~truax/wsp.html
    • Principles of Soundscape Ecology: Discovering Our Sonic World by Bryan C. Pijanowski: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/P/bo187218508.html
    • The Australian Acoustic Observatory: https://acousticobservatory.org/
    • SPAT Revolution: https://www.flux.audio/project/spat-revolution/

    Technical notes:
    Written, produced and presented by Jason Nicholas and Dr Neil Hillman
    Recorded using the CleanFeed remote recording system
    Programme edited by Jason Nicholas

    See Dr Budel’s Bandcamp page for a selection of his compositions here: https://jessebudel.bandcamp.com/

    The final piece that ends the podcast is a clip from “Early Afternoon on the Mountain” from the Cathedrals album.

    YouTube fair use disclaimer:
    Where copyrighted material appears in episodes of The Apple and Biscuit Show, it is used under the ‘fair use’ guidelines of the Copyright Act: i.e. “Use of these clips follows Fair Use laws regarding commenting and criticizing”, where Fair Use allows for the unlicensed use of copyrighted material for purposes such as Commentary, Criticism, Parody, News reporting, Teaching, Scholarship, and Research. In instances where copyright or credit is questioned, please contact us directly to discuss receiving credit, or removing the featured content.

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • #013 Blast-off from Birmingham – The Story of Grosvenor Road Studios
    May 2 2025

    In this documentary, Neil travels back to his home town of Birmingham to learn more about what he considers to be the city’s best kept cultural secret – Grosvenor Road Studios: the family-run sound facility that came to be known as ‘Birmingham’s Abbey Road’.

    Still in operation today, the studios were founded 80 years ago by John Taylor, and his business partner Charles Hollick, to record music - which they did prolifically; as well as expanding into creating soundtracks and recording dialogue for iconic television series’ and blockbuster movies.

    To help reveal the story, Neil talks with John Taylor’s wife and creative partner Jean Taylor, their two successful musician sons Christopher and Richard Taylor, and Birmingham popular music academic, Jez Collins, from the Birmingham Music Archive.

    About the presenters:
    You can find more about Chris Taylor’s work here

    You can find more about Richard Taylor’s work here

    The Birmingham Music Archive is here

    Details about Neil Hillman and Jason Nicholas’s work as dialogue editors and mixers and how to contact them is here
    Details of our 1-to-1, training and coaching programmes for ambitious media professionals are available at: https://www.drneilhillman.com and https://soundproducer.com.au/coaching and www.soundformovingpictures.com

    Technical notes:
    Written, produced and presented by Dr. Neil Hillman – IMDb
    Programme edited and mixed by Dr. Neil Hillman on DaVinci Resolve.

    YouTube fair use disclaimer:
    Where copyrighted material appears in episodes of The Apple and Biscuit Show, it is used under the ‘fair use’ guidelines of the Copyright Act: i.e. “Use of these clips follows Fair Use laws regarding commenting and criticizing”, where Fair Use allows for the unlicensed use of copyrighted material for purposes such as Commentary, Criticism, Parody, News reporting, Teaching, Scholarship, and Research. In instances where copyright or credit is questioned, please contact us directly to discuss receiving credit, or removing the featured content.

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    1 hr and 27 mins
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