John and Robin beat their track record for the last two years and record their second episode of 2025. In this episode, they talk about two different theories of the stages of learning:

Four Stages of Learning: 1) unconscious incompetence 2) conscious incompetence 3) conscious competence 4) unconscious competence

Three Stages of Motor Learning: 1) cognitive 2) associative 3) autonomous

Robin and John are back at the mic for their first and hopefully not only episode of 2025. Robin discusses her recent discovery that the knots she ties in macrame and crochet are WAY too tight, almost like she's tying to strangle the ropes she's working with. She wonders if she might need to loosen up, in art and in life. John suggests that it might be part of her mastery journey, learning to tie these knots and practice her craft with nuance. John then discusses the bone-on-bone arthritis he discovered in his right knee a year ago, how he has been rehabbing it, and how it affects his hunting and training. Robin suggests that, because of his arthritis, he now is compelled to approach the hunt with a fair amount of nuance. John likes how that really tied the podcast together.

To be discussed next time, on The Artist and The Hunter podcast: the stages of learning/competence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence

Tip of the hat to Meghan Daum, and The Unspeakable Podcast, for the exquisite phrase "Nuanced AF" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unspeakable-podcast/id1524832743

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John and Robin sit down again after a long hiatus, but grateful and excited to be back at the mic. Their topic for today's episode: collaboration. What's it like to collaborate with others, in hunting and in art? The Artist and The Hunter dig into their personal experiences and preferences, and discover by the end of the podcast that they may be actually be talking about teaching . . . or collaborating in LOVE.

Show note:
"A new report released on Oct. 12 by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service shows that 14.4 million hunters aged 16 and over contributed $45.2 billion to the economy in 2022. The survey found that 6% of the U.S. population hunted, and they spent a combined 241 million days afield last year."