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In this episode, we sit down with pastor, entrepreneur, and author Joe Graves to explore how a spirit of innovation can breathe new life into church leadership. Joe shares candid insights from his own church planting journey—what sparked it, what surprised him, and how his entrepreneurial instincts have shaped both the triumphs and tensions along the way.​

We also dive into his latest book, The Progressive Planter: A Handbook for Ecclesial Entrepreneurs, which offers practical guidance for launching inclusive, theologically grounded churches that resonate with today's communities. From spiritual rhythms to practical advice, Joe offers wisdom for anyone looking to step out in faith and lead boldly in the Church today.​

Explore more about Joe Graves and his work at www.joegraves.org
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In this episode, we sit down with Rev. Dustin Mailman, founding pastor of Deep Time in Asheville, North Carolina. Dustin shares the story behind this innovative faith community rooted in radical hospitality, restorative justice, and opportunities for returning citizens.

With a background in traditional ministry and a heart for creative expressions of the Church, Dustin explores what it means to build spiritual community alongside social impact. Whether you're in church leadership or simply curious about new ways to live out the Gospel, this conversation will challenge and inspire.

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In this inspiring episode of Better Together, we sit down with Charles DiRico, the visionary behind Word on the Street—a growing network of dinner churches reaching nearly 400 people weekly. Charles shares the powerful story of how this movement began with simple meals and has grown into a vibrant ministry rooted in worship, community, and mutual transformation.

Charles discusses the evolution of dinner churches, the importance of listening and loving as we follow Jesus into the streets, and the deep connections formed across economic and social lines. He also shares about Word on the Street’s next chapter: launching a social enterprise to employ neighbors experiencing homelessness and create bridges with new residents in their gentrifying neighborhood—all through a shared cup of coffee.

Tune in to hear how this ministry is offering more than meals—it’s creating space for dignity, relationship, and the gospel in action.

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