Episodes

  • Bitcoin is a time machine with Dr. Jack Kruse
    Nov 19 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Jack Kruse, a neurosurgeon with over 30 years of experience, to explore his transformative journey from centralized medicine to decentralized health and his discovery of bitcoin as a tool for freedom and time preservation. Jack discusses the flaws in traditional medicine, the significance of circadian biology, and why sunlight and sleep are critical for optimal health. He explains his perspective on bitcoin as a “time machine” and the parallels between decentralized money and biology. The conversation touches on the importance of self-custody, the role of technology in shaping health outcomes, and whether Americans should consider moving to El Salvador for greater personal freedom. Jack also shares insights on the challenges of population growth, the potential to extend human lifespan, and how bitcoiners can prioritize health to secure their future.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:06 Jack Kruse's background and medical journey

    3:32 Decentralized medicine: what it means

    9:20 Why centralized medicine is broken

    11:19 The importance of circadian biology

    18:25 Bitcoin and time: connecting decentralized money to health

    23:11 "Bitcoin is a time machine": explained

    33:53 How sunlight and darkness affect health

    37:10 The role of technology in health outcomes

    43:08 Living a healthier, longer life: practical advice

    49:47 El Salvador: should Americans move there?

    57:29 Is bitcoin a time machine for everyone? Victor’s story

    1:01:13 The case for decentralizing your life


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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Protecting your own strategic bitcoin reserve for 100+ years with Joe Kelly
    Nov 12 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Joe Kelly, co-founder and CEO of Unchained, to discuss his journey from his first ‘aha’ moment with bitcoin to building a company that prioritizes long term bitcoin security and self-custody. Joe reflects on Unchained’s evolution into a bitcoin-only company, his personal donation to the University of Austin’s bitcoin endowment, and Unchained’s new bitcoin donor-advised fund product. We explore the critical importance of self-custody, why new bitcoiners should care about self-custody, the challenges and opportunities for global bitcoin adoption, and Unchained’s future roadmap. Joe also shares his thoughts on the risks and potential of AI, phishing threats in the digital space, and the balance between security and user experience in bitcoin financial services.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro
    1:18 ‘Aha’ moment, Dhruv’s influence
    4:19 Founding Unchained, long-term vision
    7:47 Bitcoin-only focus
    10:27 University of Austin donation
    13:18 Bitcoin donor-advised funds
    15:23 Beyond bitcoin: family, consciousness
    17:45 Favorite podcast
    20:23 Why self-custody matters
    26:01 Accelerating adoption
    28:52 Phishing threats
    32:20 Bitcoin ETFs
    35:41 AI, identity verification
    38:17 Unchained’s future
    40:03 Roadmap, sustainability
    41:30 Favorite products
    44:44 ECB bitcoin paper
    46:50 Contrarian views on money
    49:05 Bitcoin’s biggest risk
    50:44 Closing remarks


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    51 mins
  • Bitcoin vs the European Central Bank
    Nov 5 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Marty Bent, founder of TFTC, Managing Partner at Ten31 VC, and Director at Cathedra Bitcoin. Marty shares his journey, from starting his newsletter and TFTC podcast to recording at Barstool Sports and now recently being cited by the European Central Bank in an academic paper. We explore his take on the ECB's paper, bitcoin’s adoption speed, and the risks of mining centralization. Marty dives into vulnerabilities in bitcoin core, the future of mining, and Ten31’s unique approach to supporting bitcoin-only companies on a bitcoin standard. We also discuss the balance between clickbait and integrity in bitcoin media and AI's impact on content and media.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Introduction

    1:05 Starting Marty's newsletter and TFTC

    3:22 Expectations vs. reality: Marty's journey

    5:47 Recording at barstool sports and potential acquisition

    10:21 Talking about bitcoin with co-workers at the managed futures fund

    13:05 European central bank citing Marty's newsletter

    23:25 Vulnerabilities in bitcoin

    29:04 Mining centralization—is it a problem?

    40:30 Worst and best business models you've seen at Ten31

    47:26 What's the end goal for Ten31 portfolio companies?

    52:08 How will VC change after the monetization of bitcoin?

    58:23 How will media and AI evolve over the next decade?

    1:02:23 Hyperbitcoinization faster than we expect?

    1:08:00 Biggest risk for bitcoin?


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    1 hr and 11 mins
  • Bitcoin in the 2024 US presidential election with Dennis Porter
    Oct 31 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Dennis Porter, CEO and Co-Founder of the Satoshi Action Fund, for an in-depth look at bitcoin’s place in U.S. politics. Dennis opens with an overview of how each political party approaches bitcoin and discusses the importance of bipartisan support. He examines bitcoin's resonance with American values, its appeal across political lines, and how policies can balance innovation and openness with consumer protection. Dennis reflects on the role of single-issue bitcoin voters and the potential impact on future elections including the 2024 US presidential election. He also explores how states are beginning to adopt bitcoin-friendly policies and the importance of creating scalable templates for state-level adoption.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:09 Breaking down each party’s stance on bitcoin

    3:04 Bipartisan effort and why it matters for bitcoin

    5:39 Kamala Harris vs. biden on bitcoin

    7:04 Protecting consumers while supporting innovation

    8:32 Bitcoin’s inclusiveness and appeal to democrats

    9:36 Why bitcoin resonates with American values

    10:16 Importance of bipartisan support for bitcoin

    11:38 Working with both sides of the aisle

    17:17 Role of broken money in political division

    20:40 ECB’s stance on bitcoin holders

    23:14 Debunking the ECB paper

    26:16 Bitcoin’s potential as a bipartisan issue

    29:20 Single-issue bitcoin voters and future elections

    32:14 Bitcoin voters as a swing factor in elections

    36:43 Strategic bitcoin stockpile plan

    39:17 How bitcoin influences future elections

    41:17 Adoption of bitcoin-friendly policies at the state level

    47:15 Influence of presidential cycles vs. halvings on bitcoin cycles

    50:07 Creating template policies for state adoption

    53:02 Risk to bitcoin: if earth falls into the sun


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    54 mins
  • Hyperbitcoinization with Pierre Rochard and Bitstein
    Oct 29 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Pierre Rochard, VP of Research at Riot Platforms, and Bitstein, co-founder of the Nakamoto Institute, to discuss hyperbitcoinization and more. Pierre and Michael open by reflecting on its price history, historical cycles, and long-term outlook. They explore bitcoin’s progression onto the global stage, considering how central banks view it and where we are in the context of hyperbitcoinization. They address the critical balance between self-custody and bitcoin banks, including insights into the evolving role of custody solutions and associated risks. Discussing perspectives like those of Michael Saylor and Saifedean Ammous, they weigh in on bitcoin’s function as both an asset, a money, and the concept of bitcoin “yield.” The conversation covers MicroStrategy’s strategic approach to bitcoin and their perspective on the various models like S2F, power law, and Bitcoin24.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:17 - Reflections on bitcoin cycles

    3:21 - Long-term outlook

    5:12 - Bitcoin on global stage

    7:05 - Central banks’ view on bitcoin

    14:03 - Defining hyperbitcoinization

    17:05 - Self-custody vs. bitcoin banks

    25:16 - Future of bitcoin custody

    30:10 - Risks in custodial options

    35:38 - Saylor vs. Saifedean on bitcoin banking

    42:27 - Bitcoin yield vs. fiat yield

    50:02 - MicroStrategy’s strategy

    55:10 - Modeling bitcoin’s value

    1:02:31 - Fiat vs. bitcoin volatility

    1:04:15 - Challenging views in bitcoin community


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    → Bitstein’s Twitter: https://x.com/bitstein

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • From Harvard to MicroStrategy—valuing MSTR and building Bitcoin24
    Oct 22 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Chaitanya Jain (CJ), an MBA candidate at Harvard Business School and strategist at MicroStrategy, who worked closely with Michael Saylor on the recent open source Bitcoin24 model. CJ shares his experience talking about bitcoin at HBS, detailing efforts to distinguish it from broader crypto discussions. We explore Michael Saylor’s perspective on whether bitcoin is money or just another asset. CJ offers insights into building the Bitcoin24 model and MicroStrategy’s evolving custody strategy, including the future of bitcoin in banking and other companies adopting MicroStrategy’s bitcoin strategy. We also cover their acquisition strategy using equity and convertible notes, the constraints they face, and how to think about valuing MicroStrategy in relation to their NAV. Last, CJ discusses MicroStrategy's potential future S&P 500 inclusion, effective bitcoin advocacy techniques, and the most significant risks to bitcoin today.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 Introduction and background

    00:03:23 Experience at HBS with bitcoin

    00:06:06 Efforts to differentiate bitcoin from crypto at HBS

    00:08:13 Bitcoin and crypto courses at HBS

    00:10:21 Michael Saylor’s view of bitcoin: money or asset?

    00:12:12 Catalysts for HBS interest in bitcoin

    00:14:06 Key takeaways from interacting with Michael Saylor

    00:18:25 Valuing bitcoin without cash flows

    00:20:36 Building the Bitcoin24 model with MicroStrategy

    00:24:24 MicroStrategy’s bitcoin custody strategy

    00:26:32 Future of bitcoin in banking

    00:30:55 Other companies following MicroStrategy’s bitcoin strategy

    00:38:21 MicroStrategy’s bitcoin acquisition strategy: equity and convertible notes

    00:46:24 Limits on equity issuances and convertible notes

    00:50:24 Common misunderstandings about MicroStrategy

    00:52:42 MicroStrategy’s inclusion in the S&P 500

    00:58:26 Bitcoin advocacy and persuasion techniques

    00:59:10 Biggest risks to bitcoin


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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Entering a liquidity acceleration phase with Luke Gromen
    Oct 15 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with Luke Gromen to unpack the U.S. fiscal landscape, exploring the growing strain of true interest expense and why the world may be entering a liquidity acceleration phase. Luke highlights some of the most crowded and least crowded trades in the market today and explains why gold miners are taking on a new role, while commodity stocks resemble bonds. We also discuss the potential release valves of gold, oil, and bitcoin. Luke provides insights into the shifting dynamics of physical versus paper assets, the repricing of bonds and hard assets, and bitcoin’s potential place in central bank reserves. Additionally, we cover China’s latest economic moves, the ongoing global debt bubble, and the potential impact of the U.S. Presidential election.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 - Intro

    01:06 - The U.S. fiscal situation and 'true interest expense'

    02:49 - U.S. fiscal tightening and liquidity needs

    04:03 - 'America doesn’t get to do collectively stupid stuff with borrowed money forever'

    04:51 - What is money?

    07:13 - Most crowded and least crowded trades today

    08:39 - 'Gold miners are the new commodity stocks, commodity stocks are the new bonds'

    12:07 - The release valve: gold, oil, and maybe bitcoin

    14:21 - Bitcoin miners as the new gold miners?

    16:06 - The importance of physical versus paper assets

    20:10 - The accelerating repricing event in bonds and hard assets

    23:49 - How bitcoin and gold fit into the reserve asset narrative

    33:14 - Will central banks eventually hold bitcoin?

    35:00 - China’s aggressive stimulus and what it means for global markets

    39:00 - The global sovereign debt bubble and the U.S. deficit

    40:21 - U.S. Presidential election and fiscal largesse

    41:59 - Repricing of gold and bitcoin

    49:10 - What most bitcoiners disagree with Luke on

    50:24 - The biggest risks to bitcoin and gold

    55:00 - Outro and where to find more of Luke’s work


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    56 mins
  • Predicting the next bitcoin peak with Checkmate
    Oct 8 2024

    In this episode, we sit down with James Check to tackle common misconceptions in bitcoin, from misunderstood on-chain metrics to the real impact of long-term holders. We break down key market indicators, discuss risks of audience capture, and explore whether bitcoin is set for slow, steady growth or another 80% drop. We also dive into the relevance of entity-adjusted metrics, the potential impact of ETFs, and how Checkmate optimizes bitcoin allocation strategies. Looking ahead, we speculate on bitcoin’s role in future portfolios, touch on large-scale gold buying, and even consider whether aliens might have their own version of bitcoin.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Introduction

    01:40 What is one thing you think most people are wrong about?

    08:14 Misinterpreted on-chain metrics and long-term holders

    13:00 Key metrics to watch for market tops

    19:10 Protecting against audience capture in bitcoin narratives

    22:44 Slow grind up vs fast exponential growth?

    25:48 Will bitcoin fall another 80% at some point?

    29:25 Bitcoin was not a ZIRP phenomenon

    30:10 Optimizing DCA and portfolio allocations through cycles

    35:00 How accurate are “entity-adjusted” on-chain metrics?

    41:10 Do ETFs destroy the potential usefulness of on-chain analytics?

    46:35 Decades from now, how much bitcoin is in a typical portfolio?

    50:50 Who is buying gold in size now?

    56:50 Do aliens exist and did they discover their own bitcoin?

    1:02:50 Closing thoughts


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    1 hr and 4 mins