In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, Thomas sits down with Andy Cottrell, a seasoned cybersecurity expert and the CTO of Truvantis Inc.

Andy shares valuable insights into the current trends in cybersecurity, with a focus on pen testing and red teaming. The discussion covers the importance of building a robust security program, the evolving threat landscape, and how organizations can better manage risk. Andy also delves into the role of AI in cybersecurity and the critical need for proper governance.

Whether you're a seasoned professional or just breaking into the field, this episode is packed with actionable advice and thought-provoking insights.

00:00 Welcome and Introduction

00:32 Economic Outlook in Cybersecurity

02:25 Andy's Career Journey

03:35 Pen Testing vs Red Teaming

07:48 Challenges in Pen Testing

13:47 Importance of Automation and Vulnerability Management

20:04 Risk Management and Business Continuity

26:31 Team Dynamics and Career Growth

27:44 The Importance of Team Success

28:07 Hiring for Broader Horizons

29:53 The Path to Pen Testing

32:08 The Value of Admitting Ignorance

34:10 Starting a Consulting Business

35:05 Networking and Industry Groups

37:15 The Risks of Over-Reliance on Tools

39:48 AI in Cybersecurity

47:28 Governance in a Rapidly Changing World

48:18 Leveraging AI for Personal Growth

51:19 Looking Ahead: Optimism for the Future Andy recommended: Feedly and Perplexity tool

Andy suggested: Feedly and Perplexity tool