The Innovation Meets Leadership Podcast

By: Natalie Born
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  • We exist to empower your innovation and leadership transformation journey. Collaboration, innovation, and transformation are not just concepts they are how business gets done.
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  • 5. Unlocking Innovation with Robyn Bolton
    Apr 6 2025
    What does it take to truly transform innovation from a buzzword into lasting business success when most corporate innovation initiatives fail to deliver? In this insightful episode, Natalie welcomes back Robyn Bolton, founder of Mile Zero and author of a brand new book on innovation leadership. Robyn shares her innovative "ABCs of Innovation" framework that addresses why, despite decades of investment and attention, corporate innovation results haven't significantly improved in 30 years. She reveals how successful innovation requires leaders to do the opposite of their instincts, explains why innovation and operations require fundamentally different approaches, and offers practical strategies for overcoming innovation fatigue in organizations.[00:01 - 04:00] The Innovation Challenge: Why Another Book?Robyn explains why she finally wrote an innovation book despite market saturationShe identifies the lack of progress in corporate innovation results over 30 yearsThe limitation of siloed approaches to innovation that fail to address leadership behaviors[04:01 - 08:26] The ABCs Framework: Architecture, Behaviors, and CultureRobyn introduces her comprehensive framework for innovation successShe explains how innovation requires high assumption/low knowledge vs. operational high knowledge/low assumptionLeaders must learn to do the opposite of their instincts to succeed with innovation[08:27 - 12:42] Starting the Innovation Journey RealisticallyThe importance of clearly defining innovation within your organizationRecognizing that incremental innovation is often already happeningHow storytelling and real-world examples can inspire innovation leaders[12:43 - 17:05] The People Challenge: Culture and ChangeWhy culture is the hardest aspect of innovation to define and transformThe critical insight that culture comes from repeated behaviors, not declarationsHow leaders' actions speak infinitely louder than their words[17:06- 23:52] Overcoming Innovation Fatigue Through Real InvestmentStrategies for addressing organizational skepticism about innovation initiativesThe power of meaningful incentives and rewards that show real commitmentWhy innovation leaders need a three-year timeline to create lasting changeQuotes:"Managers use things outside of their control as excuses. Leaders see them as challenges. Innovation leaders see them as opportunities." - Robyn Bolton"Innovation truly is a leadership challenge, and there are leaders who rise to master the challenge." - Robyn BoltonConnect with Robyn:Website: https://www.milezero.io/ LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.coThese are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube.Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!
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    24 mins
  • 4. Will AI Outcreate Us? The Future of Innovation with Mike Todasco
    Mar 23 2025

    What happens when AI fills 90% of the Internet with junk? The rise of AI-generated content is transforming the digital landscape—but at what cost? Mike Todasco, AI researcher and former Head of Innovation at PayPal, joins Natalie Born to discuss the impact of "AI slop"—a flood of low-quality, auto-generated content—and what it means for businesses, content creators, and consumers. He explores how AI is being used to create books, blog posts, and even fake news at an unprecedented scale. Will AI-generated junk take over, or will human creativity remain indispensable? Tune in to uncover how AI is reshaping everything from online search to personal productivity.


    [00:01 - 06:07] The Evolution of AI & Innovation

    • Mike Todasco shares his journey from finance to AI research

    • His experience running innovation at PayPal after its split from eBay

    • How AI became his focus at San Diego State University’s AI Center

    [06:08 - 12:48] The Rise of "AI Slop"

    • AI-generated content is flooding the internet with low-quality material

    • Many AI-generated books on Amazon are essentially unreadable

    • Gartner predicts 90% of internet content could be AI-generated by 2030

    [12:49 - 16:33] Human vs. AI: What Will Win?

    • AI-generated content lacks emotional depth and true storytelling

    • People are drawn to human-made art and stories over machine-made creations.

    • AI tools will enhance, not replace, human creativity.

    [16:34 - 24:00] AI in Daily Life: Helpful or Harmful?

    • Mike uses AI for personal productivity, parenting, and even healthcare

    • AI can analyze health data, suggest parenting strategies, and help with cooking

    • The future of AI in healthcare will see doctors using AI as an essential tool

    [24:01 - 36:16] How Businesses Should Be Using AI Right Now

    • Companies must set clear AI policies as employees are already using it

    • AI should be integrated into workflows to improve efficiency

    • Organizations should foster knowledge-sharing around AI use cases

    Quotes:

    "AI is great at generating content, but it still struggles to create anything with true heart and experience.” - Mike Todasco

    "AI slop is just junk being thrown onto the internet—words without purpose or artistry." - Mike Todasco

    Connect with Mike:

    LinkeIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todasco/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikesaideas/

    

    LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.

    Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.co

    These are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube.

    Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!

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    33 mins
  • 3. No-Excuses Innovation with Bruce Vojak
    Mar 9 2025

    Innovation is often seen as the domain of tech giants and industry disruptors, but what about small and medium-sized enterprises? Are they at a disadvantage, or do they have unique opportunities to innovate faster than their larger competitors?


    Bruce Vojak, founder of Breakthrough Innovation Advisors and author of No Excuses Innovation, joins the podcast to discuss why mature businesses struggle with innovation, the fears that hold them back, and the simple, low-cost steps they can take to start thinking differently. He breaks down the myths surrounding innovation and provides practical insights for business leaders looking to stay ahead of the curve.


    [00:01 - 05:48] The Innovation Struggle for Small Businesses

    • Why mature enterprises often avoid innovation
    • Understanding the S-curve and business growth cycles
    • The danger of focusing only on efficiency instead of renewal


    [05:49 - 10:33] The Three Barriers to Innovation

    • Expertise gaps in mature companies
    • Financial mindsets that resist risk-taking
    • The role of fear in preventing new ideas


    [10:34 - 15:24] Culture as the Key to Innovation

    • How company culture can either unlock or stifle innovation
    • The balance between empowerment and accountability
    • Lessons from Hewlett-Packard’s Medal of Defiance


    [15:25 - 20:00] Innovation Without Big Budgets

    • Why innovation doesn’t have to be expensive
    • Small but effective ways to start innovating today
    • The power of listening to customers for ideas


    [20:01 - 24:12] Practical Takeaways for Business Leaders

    • Looking for patterns in customer behavior
    • Turning small workarounds into real innovations
    • The importance of a discovery mindset in leadership


    "A lot of companies excel at streamlining operations, but few have the expertise to truly renew their business." – Bruce Vojak


    "Innovation doesn’t have to be a massive initiative. It starts with asking the right questions and listening to your customers." – Bruce Vojak


    Connect with Bruce:

    Website: https://www.breakthrough-innovation-advisors.com/bruce-vojak/

    LinkeIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bvojak

    

    LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.


    Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.co


    These are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube.


    Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!

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    24 mins

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