Grab a cup of your favourite beverage, find a cozy spot and settle in...today after our regular shenanigans, shoutouts, and laughs, we go DEEP... Kathie shares how she has been pushing her out of her comfort zone, Kim shares recent triggers about her her mother bringing a monster into the family and now that her mother has passed, there is more freedom to truly be vulnerable in the pain and what that little girl needed but never got. Kathie & Kim both share how it is hard to take outside advice, and what happens between us as friends when advice is being given, and how our friendship is just what we both need. We'd love to hear from you!

We are on day 3 of a 6 day trip…and we are recording from our hotel room…actually our hotel bed…LOL!!

This is a short but rather silly recap of the past three days at a resort with 12 strangers, white robes, sound baths and spa treatments! Hope you enjoy!!!

As predicted todays show is full laughter, tears, and "ah ha's" as our random thoughts take us down a pathway where we try to discover the "undercurrent" of why we truly do have a hard time putting ourselves first, making commitments and changing traditions within the family. We also talk about the power of our pets and how they reflect who we are. As usual we love your feedback, don't forget to subscribe, like and share with all your friend