Interview with Scott Cummings – Professor of Ethics at UCLA School of Law – Author of Numerous Books on Ethics in Gov’t and Accountability.

Discussion on the MAGA lawyers being disbarred and ethics violations unheard of in years past, and how to curtail abusive lawyering by legal professionals. We discuss the concept of how lawyers concerned with prestige and power – pushing falsehoods and cases that should never be brought to court – by their actions are aiding in democratic backsliding of the rules of law and consequently our nation. Specific MAGA lawyers and their legal perils are discussed.

Discussion centers on the psychological factors that go into becoming a cult-leader an what is required of those that follow. How personality types and other life factors create a susceptible structure and approval process that is ready to be converted to full obeyance to even outrageous comments by those seeking to control.

Guest: Steve Benen and Mary Kay Elloian of The Legal Edition discuss his new book that chronicles the MAGA movement and the Trump presidency, detailing the Economy under Trump compared to Biden and Obama to reveal the blatant mistruths of the former president on the health of the economy under his presidency.