In this episode, Dave and Kai discuss life lessons of being massage therapists and educators, the differences of being a good massage therapist and a good teacher, removing ego from bodywork, and how you can't be the therapist for every client. 

In this episode, Dave and Kai discuss how the pandemic has created  economic changes within the industry, how many LMT's lost income during the shut downs, how there are clients lining up out the door of every clinic in Portland, and the "labor shortage" within the industry. 

How has the massage therapy industry changed since the start of the pandemic? Even 3 years after the initial shut downs in the US, the effects are still rippling across  our profession. 

In this episode, Kai Thrilkill and Dave Holden discuss the lingering effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on the massage therapy industry, livable wage shortages, and the role of a lead therapist in a clinic. 

In our second episode, Dave Holden and Kai Thrilkill discuss what has kept us in the industry all these years, as practicing therapists and educators. 

In our inaugural podcast, Dave Holden and Kai Thrilkill traverse our lives growing up in the LGBT community in the south while making our personal and professional journeys to Portland, Oregon. In this episode, we discuss what originally got us interested in being Massage Therapists and what has kept us in the industry all these years.