• The Artist You Grow Into: Anna Vogelzang on Being a 'Lifer' | MCP #227
    Jun 12 2025

    There’s a moment in this week’s episode where folksinger and creative lifer Anna Vogelzang says, “I needed someone to look at me and say: you’re still doing this.” I’ve been thinking about that. Because it’s not always easy to tell, is it? Whether we’re still in it. Whether it still matters. Whether we still matter.

    Anna’s someone I’ve admired for years — not just because she writes these beautiful, poignant songs, but because she’s a true creative lifer. She’s kept showing up through multiple records, two kids, three cities, and a shifting music industry that’s made persistence its own kind of poetry. In this episode, we talk about the transition from ambition to authenticity, how her creative process evolved after becoming a mother, and what it really means to build a sustainable life in the arts.

    There’s a lot of honesty here. About burnout. About the identity crisis that comes when the thing you’ve wrapped your whole life around starts to feel… different. And about the ways we come back to ourselves, not in spite of change, but because of it. Anna also shares what it was like to write 144 songs for her new album Afterglow — and how the very act of writing became a lifeline when she wasn’t sure she could still call herself a musician.

    As always, this show is for anyone trying to make art a part of their everyday lives — or for anyone who believes in the power of supporting those who do. If you're in a season where the dream feels far away, or you're wondering if it's worth continuing, I think you'll find something in Anna’s story that keeps you tethered.

    P.S. — Be sure to check out the gorgeous live performance of “Small Dreams,” recorded in-studio with Packy Lundholm. It’s the kind of song that meets you where you are, especially if where you are is somewhere in-between.

    Check it out and then listen to Anna’s brand new record “Afterglow”. It drops tomorrow, everywhere.



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  • Life After Del McCoury: Jason Carter’s Next Chapter MCP #226
    Jun 5 2025

    “I lived the dream I had at nineteen. Now I’m trying to see what else is out there.”—Jason Carter

    For 33 years, Jason Carter was the fiddler for the Del McCoury Band—a role as iconic in bluegrass circles as it gets. He joined at nineteen, fresh out of Eastern Kentucky, and spent the next three decades on the road, backing one of the most revered voices in American roots music. If you’ve seen Del live any time since the early ’90s, you’ve seen Jason—bow flying, head tilted, every note right where it needed to be.

    Now, for the first time in his adult life, he’s stepping away from the comfort of that legacy and striking out on his own. It’s not a reinvention so much as a slow reveal: Jason’s still playing the music he loves, just a little more on his own terms. In this conversation, we talk about how it all started, what he learned from years riding shotgun on the McCoury bus, and what finally tipped the scales toward change.

    I first saw Jason at the Columbia Gorge Bluegrass Festival when I was still new to the whole scene. I remember watching him and thinking, This guy is the sound inside the sound. He wasn’t just playing fiddle—he was holding the whole thing together, quietly, from the side of the stage.

    And now here he is, not just stepping into the spotlight musically, but in life too. Earlier this year, Jason married his partner and fellow musician Bronwyn Keith-Hynes in the circle of the Grand Ole Opry stage—at sunrise, no less. It’s the kind of detail that feels like the end of a movie. But for Jason, it’s really just the start.

    Not only was this a fantastic conversation, but we also got a little taste of Jason steppin out to sing one of his own. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did!



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  • Erin Rae on Grief, Creativity & Letting Go of the Dreamland | MCP #225
    May 15 2025
    Erin Rae is a Nashville singer-songwriter whose music blends introspective folk, vintage pop, and Americana into a sound both timeless and, I’d say, quietly radical. Raised in Jackson, Tennessee by musician parents, Erin was immersed as a kid in the language of song and storytelling. We talk about her early years in Nashville (she moved in her early 20s): late nights at the Cafe Coco RIP, and finding a community for her unique approach to songs and songwriting. She began developing her distinctive voice—soft, clear, emotionally precise.The Morse Code with Korby Lenker is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my music, writing, and episodes of the MCP, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Her 2015 debut Soon Enough, released under the name Erin Rae and the Meanwhiles, introduced a minimalist approach to country-folk songwriting that drew early comparisons to Emmylou Harris and Gillian Welch. But it was 2018’s Putting on Airs that truly announced Rae’s arrival as a songwriter of depth and nuance. The album explored mental health, identity, and self-acceptance with disarming honesty—particularly on tracks like “Bad Mind,” where she addressed internalized homophobia and the complexities of personal evolution. The record earned critical acclaim from NPR, Rolling Stone, and Paste, and expanded her audience across the U.S. and Europe.Erin’s 2022 album Lighten Up, produced by Jonathan Wilson (Father John Misty, Angel Olsen, Dawes), marked a stylistic turn for the evolving songwriter. Drawing on 1970s psych-folk and Laurel Canyon pop, the album softened the edges of her earlier work without sacrificing its emotional clarity. Themes of grief, femininity, and letting go ran through the songs, while collaborators like Kevin Morby and Meg Duffy (Hand Habits) added subtle, dreamlike textures. Critics praised it as her most expansive and confident work to date, and Rae soon found herself playing major festivals like Newport Folk and Pickathon.Throughout her career, Rae has also become a beloved harmony vocalist and collaborator, contributing to records by Tyler Childers, Courtney Marie Andrews, Brent Cobb, and Gregory Alan Isakov. Her distinctive vocal presence—warm and understated—has made her a quiet fixture of the Americana and indie-folk world.It’s a lot of limelight for such a sensitive person. She’s open about her struggles with anxiety and perfectionism (we spent a lot of talking discussing both of these things in our conversation), often using her platform to advocate for mental health and self-compassion. Her Instagram reads more like a personal journal than a promotional tool: full of candid reflections on the creative process.I’ve been a fan for more than ten years. I remember hearing Erin sing for the first time at my buddy’s house over on Pennock Street in East Nashville’s Cleveland Park neighborhood. It was one of those pass-the-guitar around nights, and when it was Erin’s turn I was struck down and slapped in that way that only happens once in a while in a town where talent’s as common as water in the tap. A flowing voice, hers, not trying too hard, exactly the right amount of pressure coming through. Also, she could play guitar really well for how good the songs were. I spent the next ten years doing my own version of the folk music fantasy — mine was driving around the country in a series of under-performing cars — so it was from a distance I watched Erin’s rise through the hallowed ranks of popular folkdom. But she’s famously kind, and open, and, in addition to being a respected singular voice, has too been a consistently sought-after collaborator. She even played the love interest in the latest Red Clay Strays music video!A few months ago, Erin’s mom passed away. For the first time publicly, she opened up about that experience, their special relationship, and what she learned from her mother, in living and in moving on. It will make you think about the people in your own life who you love and who have made an impact on you.Lastly, Erin treated us to a live performance of one of the favorites from her last release, a tune she penned with former MCP guest Andrew Combs called “Lighten Up & Try”.An amazing conversation with an amazing and refreshingly understated voice. Enjoy. Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe
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  • Bronwyn Keith-Hynes on Fiddle Mastery, the Opry, and Finding Her Voice | Morse Code Podcast #224
    May 1 2025
    Great conversation with bluegrass fiddler Bronwyn Keith-Hynes on her exploding career — from attending this year’s Grammys under the auspices of Molly Tuttle (in whose band Golden Highway she plays fiddle), to making her debut on the Grand Ole Opry last month, to a year chock full of tour dates and festivals playing under her own name.We talked about the pros and cons of playing in someone else’s band versus rallying under your own flag, and the challenge of striking any kind of reasonable work-life balance when you in hot pursuit of a lifelong dream. I think my favorite part of this conversation was Bronwyn’s articulate description of the way she learned how to improvise, a skill that came fairly late for a picker of such proficiency. "I made a list of all the things I was bad at and slowly worked at raising each of them.”We discussed the difference between West Coast bluegrass versus the same kind of music coming out of Appalachia or the South (this is my distinction, not any kind official pronouncement, but I think there’s something to it and I did try to put some words to it).In a new thing for the podcast, I queued up a highlight reel of bluegrass favorites in the throes of their own spirited playing: Vassar Clements, Stuart Duncan, Michael Cleveland, and Alison Krauss, while Bronwyn dished out her takes. Super fun.Finally, she played a live one here in the Ranch Vovo studio — the Peter Rowan classic “Angel Island”, with her husband (and 6x IBMA Fiddle Player of the Year) Jason Carter, accompanying on guitar and harmonies).It’s not everyday I get the opportunity to speak with a young player whose recent considerable successes feel like the prelude to a much larger career. Bronwyn plays the hell out of her instrument, even while she’s looking toward finding new ways of expressing herself. First playing, then singing, now songwriting.The heart of this podcast has to do with a kind of transparent vulnerability — people, even very talented people, are all on a dynamic journey, part growth, part risk, part dream. Hope you like this one as much as I did.00:00 Intro - Vassar Clements Reaction 00:45 Hi Bronwyn just debuted on the Grand Ole Opry 03:34 If you're not getting nervous then you're not really living 04:09 The latest record 05:20 Bronwyn's BG Story begins in Irish Fiddling 06:28 Fiddle Contest culture vs jamming culture 09:29 When did Bronwyn get curious about improvised music? 12:23 "I would make a list of everything I was bad at and try to raise the level" 14:31 Do you have go-to solos you'll play in pressure situations? 15:52 Whats the trade-off between being in a band vs a solo act? 19:23 THe perils of self-identifying a a BG fiddler 20:47 Bronwyn sets up Angel Island 25:29 Korby’theory abt the difference between West Coast BG and Appalachian BG 28:46 Where does Bronwyn think her music falls in terms of traditional BG? 33:21 Reaction to Vassar Clements 35:20 Reactsion to Stuart Duncan 37:19 Korby tells a story about seeing Edgar Meyer at the Kinkos in Green Hills 38:01 Reaction to Michael Cleveland 40:37 Reaction to Alison Krauss 41:49 Bronwyn discusses her relationship to social media 44:40 Do you have a decent sense of a work-life balance? Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe
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  • Leah Blevins on Finding Her Voice, Signing with Dan Auerbach, and Learning to Let Go | MCP #223
    Apr 17 2025

    In this intimate episode of The Morse Code Podcast, host Korby Lenker sits down with rising Americana star Leah Blevins for a vulnerable, wise, and deeply human conversation about music, identity, and the winding path of the creative life. Leah opens up about her roots in Eastern Kentucky, her gospel-singing family, and the twin bond that shaped her early years.

    She shares the pressures and rewards of her recent publishing deal with Major Bob, how she's learned to balance discipline with inspiration, and what it really means to write songs from a place of emotional honesty without burning out. The two also talk about personal growth, relationships, and the surprising clarity that comes from moments of doubt—including Leah’s brief foray into culinary school and what it taught her about staying true to her calling.

    The episode crescendos with a live performance of her new single “Hundred Different Sides”, and the news of her record deal with Dan Auerbach’s Easy Eye Sound. If you’ve ever struggled with the tension between vulnerability and self-preservation, this one will hit home.



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  • Will Kimbrough on John Prine, Jimmy Buffett, and the Real Life of a Working Musician | MCP #222
    Apr 3 2025

    In this revealing episode of The MCP, I sit down with Grammy-nominated songwriter, guitarist, and Americana mainstay Will Kimbrough for a wide-ranging conversation on the hard truths and quiet joys of a life in music.

    From his early days as a 12 year old electric guitar player to getting signed to EMI, and then John Prine’s Oh Boy Records, to his work with Jimmy Buffett, Shemekia Copeland, and Todd Snider, Will offers a masterclass in musical longevity, humility, and hustle.

    A few of the stories and names he mentions reminded me of what I sometimes foolishly take for granted — namely my geographical proximity to musical greatness. For instance celebrated producer Jay Joyce has a studio not 50 hundred feet away from where I now sit, and in the other direction, three houses opposite, is Eric McConnell’s studio, the legendary location where was recorded my favorite album of all time, Todd Snider’s East Nashville Skyline.

    Incidentally, in the picture at top I am sitting across the table from that album’s producer. I was so excited I had to share the story of discovering that album in a CD listening station at Waterloo records in Austin in the closing moments of an otherwise very dismal experience, which was me playing SXSW in 2004. That album is why I moved to East Nashville, and why I live there still. Crazy but true.

    Back to Will. Kimbrough opens up about navigating the highs and lows of the industry—learning to trust a team, the freedom of doing things DIY, and how obligation can become an artist’s best creative ally. His career parallels a number of iconic Nashville personalities and institutions, like Mike Grimes (with whom Kimbrough formed the beloved trio the Bis-quits and signed to Prine’s Oh Boy Records).

    Finally we get into his life-changing work with veterans through Songwriting with Soldiers and post-traumatic growth programs, and share a few stories about sobriety (his, mostly) and how he’s managed to steer clear of some of the darker potholes that might have otherwise claimed a career now well into in its fourth decade.

    And yes—there’s a live performance Kimbrough’s song “For the Life of Me,” with me in there on guitar.

    00:00:00 "Desired Obligation" 00:01:08 Congrats on the Grammy Nom, Will 00:03:06 What caught your ear early on? 00:04:12 Seeing Bruce Springsteen on your 12th birthday 00:05:19 Riffing with Doyle at Grimey's about the power of earlier radio 00:06:18 The first thing Will did with an electric guitar 00:09:04 Constant Throughput makes you less precious 00:10:19 Riffing on Jay Joyce 00:11:51 Getting signed - "the shackles were on" 00:17:22 The collateral positives of getting signed 00:20:18 how to negotiate the tension between personal freedom and teamwork 00:23:11 Meeting Jimmy Buffett through Todd Snider 00:24:32 Trying to get dropped and forming the Bis-quits 00:26:49 Energy optimism and drive in finding a manager or launching a record 00:27:20 Why is it you make your best work when you're in a bad way? 00:28:48 Will's collective songwriting 00:31:31 Writing records with Todd Snider East Nashville Skyline and the Devil You Know 00:32:33 Korby's "East Nashville Skyline" story 00:35:54 The story about Todd Snider's fallout with Jimmy Buffett 00:38:00 Getting addicted to the school of Todd and Rodney Crowell and that crew 00:38:56 A version of the dream as expressed by Korby 00:39:55 Working with Shemekia Copeland 00:40:44 Warrior PATHH program 00:41:39 Wills Bob Dylan movie story 00:44:42 Setting up "For the Life of Me" live in studio 00:53:06 Will Kimbrough performs "For the Life of Me" 00:57:07 "Addicted to gratitude" 00:59:53 A story about John Prine's "Hello in there" 01:02:50 Are you melancholy or even-keeled? 01:05:41 How have you stayed open to the constant change? 01:07:30 Some notes on sobriety 01:12:27 That plato quote about everyone is fighting a hard battle 01:15:17 Talking about reading and writing 01:17:15 How a story about a song connects people 01:18:00 A story about writing with Jimmy Buffett



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  • Celia Gregory on the Future of Radio, Music Curation & Building Community | Morse Code Podcast #221
    Mar 20 2025

    What does human-curated radio mean in an era dominated by algorithms? In this episode of The Morse Code Podcast, I sit down with Celia Gregory from Nashville’s WNXP to talk about the power of radio, music discovery, and how real people—not algorithms—shape the sound of a city.

    Celia shares her journey from college radio DJ to morning host at WNXP, the role of local radio in fostering music communities, and why she believes in giving underrepresented artists a voice.



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  • What the Tornado Left Behind: Jordie Lane on Songwriting, Mental Health & Why Getting a Rescue Dog was His Smartest Move | MCP #220
    Mar 6 2025

    Jordie Lane on Artistry, Resilience & Reinventing the Indie Music Scene. In this episode of The Morse Code Podcast, host Korby Lenker sits down with the Australian-born Nashville-residing singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Jordie Lane.

    Together they explore the raw realities of making a life in independent music, the necessity of artistic reinvention, and the relentless pursuit of creative authenticity. Jordie shares candid insights on navigating the ever-evolving industry, the emotional and financial struggles of being a full-time musician, and how personal reinvention is key to staying inspired.

    From songwriting secrets to tour life stories plucked from his dozen plus years as a road-dogging tourbadour, this conversation is a must-watch for musicians, songwriters, and anyone who believes in the power of storytelling through music.

    00:00:00 Intro

    00:04:53 The contrast between outward appearances and inward reality

    00:06:04 The concept behind "Tropical Depression"

    00:08:14 The pandemic's impact on Jordie's mental health

    00:10:10 How not being able to travel can increase anxiety

    00:11:25 Jordie's decision to make his struggles with anxiety a part of his "official" album rollout

    00:12:58 Korby's take on the podcast space as a reflection of culture's demaan for authenticity

    00:14:43 Jumping on the authenticity train is also possibly inauthentic

    00:16:01 Timeline of the album's creation and release

    00:19:05 How did you finance your record Jordie?

    00:20:32 Getting in and out of your own way as an artist

    00:23:43 Korby's recollection of filming Jordie's video for "The Changing Weather"

    00:23:59 The fundemental tension between confidence and its opposite

    00:25:04 Getting pooped on as a new dad

    00:26:17 Korby use of music as a means of trying to be loved

    00:27:42 The imprtance of being in a good headspace to making art

    00:30:12 Korby quotes Leonard Berstein's newborn baby quote

    00:31:12 Dostoyevsky's claim that in order to make art you have to be both sensitive and in pain

    00:33:11 Jordie's perspective on working in film and tv

    00:36:04 The fraught romance of touring

    00:38:01 The importance of low overhead to creative freedom

    00:39:18 Jordie loves the improvised element of on stage banter

    00:40:43 Jordie's advice to Korby about banter with a full band

    00:42:55 A sudden glimpse into Korby's organizational efforts

    00:44:03 The necessary discipline of a self-employed artist

    00:48:20 Why Jordie got a shelter dog

    00:51:13 The "42 Steps" of making the podcast

    00:52:37 Jordie sets up "Empty Room"

    00:53:42 Jordie and Korby perform "Empty Room"

    00:58:03 A compliment and an inquiry

    00:59:51 Jordie's current process for writing songs

    01:01:35 Co-writing and trepidation

    01:02:15 How Maya Angelou and John Prine write

    01:02:56 More detail on Jordie's "waiting" approach to songwriting

    01:05:11 What seperates those who create from those who don't

    01:06:06 How Meet Me at the End of the World was written

    01:07:53 The process of writing is more important than the end result

    01:09:20 Suddenly Jordie and Korby are going to try to write one



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