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John Vance, Nick Brunacini, and Terry Garrison explore how fire service leaders can lend perspective to firefighters who possess education but lack experience, focusing on effective leadership approaches that protect firefighters while enabling them to deliver service.

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This episode was recorded at the AVB CTC in Phoenix, AZ on June 5, 2025.

We explore how perspective in leadership impacts firefighter safety and organizational effectiveness.

• The transition from firefighter to company officer to battalion chief requires significant perspective adjustment at each level
• Explaining consequences versus making threats – good leaders predict outcomes rather than impose punishments
• Today's firefighters are smart and have instant access to information but lack the experiential perspective of veteran firefighters
• Consistent messaging from leaders about expectations creates a culture of safety and accountability
• Leading from appropriate distance – knowing when to intervene versus when to step back and assess
• The responsibility leaders carry to families who trust them with their loved ones' safety
• Labor groups and administration working together toward common goals benefits everyone
• Effective leaders handle difficult situations by identifying critical factors before acting
• Training is where perspective is most effectively shared with inexperienced firefighters
• Be safe, be effective, be nice – simple consistent messaging that guides fire service behavior

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