In this episode Caroline and Jack have what the teenage boy on trial said in the moments after he stabbed Harvey Willgoose. He told police he had the knife for his own protection because he thought he was going to get jumped. He said he was protecting himself.

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In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria.

Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, we finally have the verdict.

Caroline and Jack also sit down with Detective Superintendent Lewis Basford, who helped lead the hunt for Constance Martin and Mark Gordon, in an exclusive interview.

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In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria.

Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, Caroline and Jack can finally bring you the verdict.

Listen to the full episode, ’The Trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon: The Verdict’, wherever you get your podcasts.

This week Caroline and Jack will also be bringing you a three part series exclusively to Trial+. They will be delving into the background of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon; details we couldn't bring you until now.

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