Can't miss episode! Courtney and Just Blane host a live taping AND finish the season by recording on location in the cemetery that Ari Aster filmed 'Hereditary'!

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Welcome to an intriguing episode of The Witch Movie Project, where hosts Courtney Pearl and Just Blane take you on a journey through the unsettling worlds of "Return to Oz" and "Hereditary." This episode is a double feature, exploring the connections between these two films and their unique takes on horror and witchcraft.

Join Courtney and Blane as they discuss the eerie sequel "Return to Oz," a film that deviates from the classic "Wizard of Oz" with its darker tones and cult status. Discover the fascinating behind-the-scenes stories, including the challenges faced by director Walter Murch and the film's connection to the original Oz books by L. Frank Baum. The hosts delve into the film's creepy elements, from TikTok to the Wheelers, and the high body count that rivals even the scariest horror films.

In the second half, the hosts explore the chilling depths of "Hereditary," a film that redefines modern horror with its psychological twists and supernatural elements. Courtney and Blane analyze the film's themes of grief, family dysfunction, and the occult, highlighting Toni Collette's Oscar-worthy performance. They unravel the mystery of the demon Paimon and the cult's sinister plans, offering insights into the film's many symbols and hidden meanings.

(00:00) Ride the Wave Media and novel Daybreak present the Witch Movie Project

(01:52) Courtney and I picked our favorite witch movies out of dozens

(05:32) The movie Return to Oz is set in about 1899, so it's creepy

(07:33) This movie has the highest body count out of all the movies we pick

(10:40) Tim Burton definitely took inspiration for Jack Skellington from Jack Pumpkinhead

(11:28) There's a lot, though, to unpack. I want to talk about the Gump. Now, a gump is not real,

(12:12) Walter Murch was the director of this film

(13:29) The Wicked series is really, really good. I've read all of them. This is the last one of the series

(15:13) Now, you got final thoughts on this movie? A lot. Huh? Huh?

(16:51) You have to meet me at a certain location to watch Hereditary

(17:45) This is where they filmed the funeral scene for Hereditary

(21:37) Did you have some more thoughts on Return to Oz? Because, well, it's scary

(23:51) There's a lot of symbolism in this movie. There is. And you will not get to all of it

(26:44) The opening of the movie is when Toni Collette's mom passes away

(29:21) The Hereditary sound effect reminds me of the Grudge

(31:40) This is where the creepiness amps up quite a bit

(34:58) That whole scene driving down the road, swerving to not hit deer

(36:10) The performance of Toni Collette from the beginning of this movie is incredible

(38:20) I think we're meant to believe that this is a coven

(40:43) All these symbols add up to what's really going on in the movie

(44:29) Be careful with people who claim to be a medium or who do seances

(47:59) All I want to say is don't be fooled by the action happening in the scene

(48:57) Charlie: This movie will scar you if you watch it

(52:23) I watched all of them with my husband, and by the end they were gory

(53:16) What are your final thoughts on this movie? Do you have any more points

(55:09) I want to hear what other people out there got to say next

Don't miss this captivating episode filled with horror insights, film trivia, and a celebration of cult classics. Whether you're a fan of witchy films or love a chilling story, this episode is a must-listen.

Return to Oz (1985) [IMDb: Return to Oz](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/)

Hereditary (2018) [IMDb: Hereditary](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7784604/)

Toni Collette [Toni Collette - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001057/)

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*Watch The Full Episode On YouTube!*

In this special bonus episode of The Witch Movie Project, hosts Courtney Pearl and Just Blane bring you an exclusive interview with Robyn Lively, the star of the cult classic "Teen Witch." Recorded at FanX in Salt Lake City, this episode captures the magical moment when the hosts unexpectedly met Robyn Lively, sparking an impromptu and unforgettable conversation.

Join Courtney and Blane as they dive into the empowering themes of "Teen Witch" and "The Craft," exploring how these films inspire young women to believe in themselves. Robyn Lively shares her thoughts on the enduring message of her iconic role as Louise and even treats listeners to a nostalgic rap from the movie. Discover the parallels between these two beloved witch films and celebrate the positive impact they continue to have on audiences.

(00:00) Ride the Wave and Novel Daybreak present the Witch Movie Project

(01:15) Courtney and Blane discuss the feedback from the Teen Witch vs. The Craft episode

(02:35) The serendipitous meeting with Robyn Lively at FanX

(04:12) Robyn Lively joins the conversation and talks about her role as Louise

(06:45) The empowering message of believing in yourself

(08:23) Robyn performs the famous rap from Teen Witch

(10:01) Robyn Lively supports Promise to Live and shares a heartfelt message

(12:00) Courtney receives a special amulet from Robyn

(14:30) Closing thoughts and gratitude to sponsors

Don't miss this enchanting episode filled with nostalgia, inspiration, and a touch of magic. Plus, learn about the important work of Promise2live.org, an organization dedicated to suicide prevention and awareness. Whether you're a fan of witchy films or simply love a good story, this episode is a must-listen.

Robyn Lively [Robyn Lively - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0515194/)

Teen Witch (1989) [IMDb: Teen Witch (1989)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098453/)

The Craft (1996) [IMDb: The Craft (1996)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115963/)

Promise2Live [Promise2Live](https://www.promise2live.org)