• 23: Tennessee Williams And Walt Whitman
    Jun 6 2025

    In this episode of 'These Are The Gays of Our Lives,' hosts Drew and Sarah explore various themes related to LGBTQ history and representation. This conversation delves into the life and legacy of Walt Whitman, exploring his early challenges, innovative teaching methods, and eventual transition to writing. It highlights his struggles with alcoholism, his activism for social issues, and the profound impact of his experiences in New Orleans on his work. The discussion also covers the evolution of his seminal work, Leaves of Grass, and his bohemian lifestyle, culminating in his experiences during the Civil War and his later life health decline. Ultimately, it reflects on Whitman's lasting influence on poetry and social justice.

    This conversation also delves into the lives and works of Tennessee Williams. The discussion highlights key themes such as the influence of family, the complexities of his relationship, and the darker aspects of his work. It also touches on the adaptations of Tennessee's plays into films and the challenges he faced in his career, culminating in their legacies as iconic American writer.

    Sources:

    Walt Whitman

    https://whitmanarchive.org/whitmans-life/biography

    Tennessee Williams:

    Truman and Tennessee, An Intimate conversation. Documentary, 2020.


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    1 hr and 39 mins
  • 22: Truman Capote And Oscar Wilde
    May 23 2025

    In this episode of 'These Are the Gays of Our Lives', hosts Sarah and Drew explore the lives of LGBTQ authors, focusing on Oscar Wilde. They discuss various media representations of gay culture, share positive news for the community, and delve into Wilde's literary contributions and personal struggles with identity. The conversation highlights the importance of representation in media and the ongoing journey of the LGBTQ community. This conversation delves into the life and legacy of Truman Capote, exploring his rise to fame, his relationships within high society, and the impact of his work, particularly 'In Cold Blood.' The discussion highlights Capote's complex personality, his struggles with addiction, and the eventual downfall that came with his controversial writings. The hosts reflect on the tragic elements of his life, including his childhood trauma and the consequences of his actions on his friendships and career.

    Sources:

    Oscar Wilde

    https://youtu.be/oxZudaO67Fg?si=ovor2Y2Rn28abtw6

    Truman Capote: The Capote Tapes (movie 2019) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10826972/


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    1 hr and 44 mins
  • 21: THE GRACE JONES PART 2
    May 9 2025

    In this episode, Drew and Sarah delve into the life and legacy of Grace Jones, exploring her journey from Jamaica to becoming a disco icon. They discuss her relationships, the impact of her Jamaican roots on her identity and music, and the challenges she faced during her pregnancy. The conversation highlights Grace's unique persona, her influence on pop culture, and the personal stories that shaped her career. In this segment, Drew and Sarah delve into the multifaceted life of Grace Jones, exploring her relationships, creative collaborations, and the impact of her music and persona on pop culture. They discuss her experiences as a mother, the challenges of censorship in her lyrics, and the complexities of her relationships, particularly with Jean-Paul Goude and Dolph Lundgren. The conversation also touches on her iconic music videos and the public's perception of her controversial moments, including a live TV incident that became a defining moment in her career. This conversation delves into the life and career of Grace Jones, exploring her relationships, her experiences at the Grammy Awards, and her significant impact on film and pop culture. The discussion highlights her iconic roles, particularly in 'Boomerang' and 'A View to a Kill', and reflects on the challenges she faced as a female creator in a male-dominated industry, as well as the personal struggles during the AIDS crisis.

    Source:

    I'll Never Write My Memoirs By Grace Jones


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    1 hr and 53 mins
  • 20: THE GRACE JONES Part 1
    Apr 25 2025

    In this episode, Sarah and Drew delve into the life and legacy of Grace Jones, exploring her early years, cultural impact, and the significance of her work in the LGBTQ+ community. They discuss her memoir, iconic status, and the representation of queer stories in media, while also engaging in light-hearted segments about pop culture. In this conversation, Drew and Sarah delve into the life of Grace Jones, exploring her roots in Jamaica, her strict religious upbringing, and the challenges she faced growing up. They discuss her transition to America, her journey of self-discovery, and her experiences in the theater. The conversation highlights her unique identity, relationships, and the impact of her family background on her life and career. This part of the conversation delves into Grace Jones's early life, her experiences in a hippie commune, and her struggles in the modeling industry. It highlights her friendships, the tragic loss of a close friend, and her journey to Paris where she faced cultural challenges. The discussion also covers her rise in the modeling world, her collaboration with Issey Miyake, and the influence of Kabuki theater on her artistic expression. In this captivating conversation, Sarah and Drew explore the multifaceted life of Grace Jones, from her groundbreaking fashion collaborations to her iconic performances at Studio 54. They delve into her creative partnerships, particularly with renowned designer Issey Miyake, and her unique ability to blend different cultural influences in her work. The discussion also highlights her friendships with influential figures like Andy Warhol, her unforgettable performances, and her impact on music and film. The conversation culminates in reflections on her legacy and the indelible mark she has left on the arts.

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    1 hr and 43 mins
  • 19: Musician Series: Billy Preston And Dusty Springfield
    Apr 11 2025

    In this episode of 'These Are the Gays of Our Lives', hosts Sarah and Drew delve into the world of musicians, focusing on lesser-known figures like Sister Rosetta Tharp and the cultural impact of rock and roll icons. They discuss the evolution of media representation, particularly in relation to LGBTQ themes, and reflect on classic comedy's role in shaping societal norms. The conversation also highlights community resistance against censorship and the importance of preserving diverse narratives, culminating in a spotlight on the life and legacy of Dusty Springfield. This conversation delves into the life and career of Dusty Springfield, exploring her early life, struggles with identity, transformation into a music icon, activism, personal challenges, and her eventual comeback. The discussion highlights her unique voice, her impact on music, and the complexities of her personal life, including her relationships and battles with addiction and health issues. This conversation delves into the life and legacy of Billy Preston, a musical genius known for his incredible talent as an organ player and singer. The discussion covers his early beginnings, rise to fame, collaborations with iconic artists, struggles with trauma and substance abuse, and his eventual downfall. The hosts reflect on the impact of his music and the challenges he faced throughout his life, culminating in his posthumous recognition in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    Sources:

    Dusty Springfield

    Just Dusty: https://youtu.be/FwqzaHEh2_4?si=QJVIbcZfO2TLJ4ob

    Unsung: Billy Preston

    https://youtu.be/9PLKhfu4PfU?si=zsZDAfb4Z_4BOlgk


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    1 hr and 22 mins
  • 18: Musician Series- Esquerita And Sister Rosetta Tharpe
    Mar 28 2025

    In this episode of 'These Are The Gays of Our Lives,' Drew and Sarah explore the rich history of LGBTQ+ musicians, highlighting the importance of representation in music and media. The episode culminates in a tribute to Sister Rosetta Tharp, the godmother of rock and roll, whose influence on music is profound and often overlooked. This conversation delves into the life and legacy of Rosetta Tharpe, a pioneering figure in gospel music who significantly influenced the development of rock and roll. The discussion covers her early life, rise to fame, personal struggles, and the cultural impact she had on music and society. Despite her groundbreaking contributions, Tharpe faced numerous challenges, including societal expectations and personal relationships, ultimately leading to a complex legacy that deserves recognition. This conversation explores the legacies of Sister Rosetta Tharpe and Esquerida, two influential yet often overlooked figures in the history of rock and roll. The discussion highlights their contributions to music, their struggles with identity and acceptance, and the impact they had on future generations of musicians. Through anecdotes and historical context, the speakers delve into the complexities of their lives, their artistry, and the societal challenges they faced, ultimately shedding light on their rightful places in music history.

    Sources-

    The Godmother of Rock n Roll - Sister Rosetta Tharpe

    https://youtu.be/FKK_EQ4pj9A?si=5VcEpdo6xvqcGa0z

    Esquerita

    https://www.bluesandrhythm.co.uk/documents/BR270-Esquerita.pdf

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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • 17 Musician Series: Bessie Smith And Josephine Baker
    Mar 14 2025

    In this episode, Sarah and Drew explore the lives of LGBTQ musicians, starting with Bessie Smith and Josephine Baker. This conversation delves into the life of Bessie Smith, a pioneering blues singer known for her complex personality, turbulent relationships, and significant impact on music and culture. The discussion highlights her rise to fame, struggles with family and marriage, exploration of sexuality, confrontations with racism, and the powerful messages in her lyrics. Bessie's legacy is marked by her boldness and defiance, as well as her tragic end, which left a lasting impression on the music world. This conversation delves into the life and legacy of Josephine Baker, exploring her journey from a poor upbringing in St. Louis to becoming a celebrated performer in Paris. The discussion highlights her struggles with race and identity, her impact on civil rights, and her lasting influence on culture and society. Baker's bold performances and her role as a spy during World War II are also examined, showcasing her multifaceted contributions to art and activism.

    Sources

    Bessie Smith: The woman who sang the blues

    https://youtu.be/o-TqtAIc21M?si=9IPG74mWk3m26y6I

    Blues legacies and Black feminism : Gertrude "Ma" Rainey, Bessie Smith, and Billie Holiday

    by Anglea Davis (1998)

    The Scandalous and Triumphant Life of Josephine Baker.

    https://youtu.be/s1lf_Vd4xqw?si=BB5hP5IIQ1B8BQG8

    Josephine Baker: The Story of an Awakening

    https://youtu.be/3nHUh_yjLaA?si=-f7J-jFgwc8a30jK


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    1 hr and 27 mins
  • 16: Bayard Rustin And Nell Carter
    Feb 28 2025

    In this episode of 'These Are The Gays of Our Lives', Drew and Sarah explore the stories of LGBTQ figures, focusing on the legacy of Prince, the campy nature of Batman films, and recent positive developments for the LGBTQ community. They also share surprising experiences from Kansas City, highlighting its unexpected inclusivity and representation. This conversation delves into the life and activism of Bayard Rustin, a key figure in the civil rights movement. The speakers discuss Rustin's early life, his philosophy of nonviolence, his significant contributions to the March on Washington, and the challenges he faced due to his sexual orientation. They highlight his legacy as a courageous activist who fought for social justice and equality, emphasizing the importance of his work in the context of both civil rights and LGBTQ history. This conversation delves into the life of Nell Carter, exploring her tragic childhood, rise to fame, struggles with addiction, personal relationships, health crises, and her legacy. The discussion highlights the complexities of her character, her impact on television, and the challenges she faced throughout her life, ultimately painting a portrait of a talented yet troubled individual.

    Sources:

    E True Hollywood Story : Nell Carter

    Brother Outsider: The life of BYard Rustin. 2003.

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    1 hr and 35 mins
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