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Today's Conversation

Today's Conversation

By: National Association of Evangelicals
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Today’s Conversation is the podcast of the National Association of Evangelicals. Host Walter Kim, NAE president, talks with leading thinkers, theologians, activists, culture-makers and more, with the goal of helping evangelicals foster thriving communities and navigate complexity with biblical clarity.Copyright 2025 Today's Conversation Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
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  • Byron Johnson | A Global Vision for Human Flourishing
    Jun 15 2025
    What does it really mean to flourish — not just as individuals, but as communities, cultures and societies? In this episode of Today’s Conversation, Byron Johnson, distinguished professor of social sciences at Baylor University and co–director of the Global Flourishing Study, expands our vision of human flourishing to a global scale.

    Byron Johnson joins NAE President Walter Kim to unpack surprising and hopeful findings emergingfrom the Global Flourishing Study, a groundbreaking international research project he leads in collaboration with Harvard University and others. Together, they explore how flourishing is being measured across the world and why it matters now more than ever — for people of faith, for the Church and for the future of society.

    In their conversation, they explore:

    • What makes the Global Flourishing Study a truly unprecedented effort;
    • Why flourishing is about more than just health and wealth — it’s also about purpose, relationships and faith;
    • How the Church plays a vital role in shaping holistic well-being; and
    • How the Bible offers a compelling vision of what it means to thrive.

    Resources

    • Full conversation with Byron Johnson on YouTube 
    • For further study, see Ezekiel 47, John 7 and Revelation 22
    • Global Flourishing Study
    • “More God, Less Crime: Why Faith Matters and How it Could Matter More,” by Byron Johnson
    • “The Faith Factor and Social Welfare: Evidence, Practice, Policy,” by Byron Johnson (coming in December 2025)
    • Moving Society From “Me” to “We,” NAE podcast with Robert Putnam and Shaylyn Romney Garrett
    • “Faith That Flourishes,” by Walter Kim in Evangelicals magazine

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    40 mins
  • Sheila Wise Rowe | Rest and Resisting the Pace of Pharaoh
    May 15 2025
    Rest can feel like an undeserved “luxury” for many of us — but what if it’s actually a gift from God to help us resist the “pharaohs” of our age that plague us with constant striving and endless productivity?

    Sheila Wise Rowe, a counselor, spiritual director and author of “Healing Leadership Trauma,” joins this episode of Today’s Conversation podcast to explore the transformational power of rest — and why God’s rhythms for our lives are so different from the world’s relentless demands.

    While our culture tends to measure value by output, the gospel offers a rich vision of rest as a practice that nurtures emotional, spiritual and communal flourishing. In this conversation, NAE President Walter Kim and Sheila Wise Rowe discuss:

    • Why rest is central to the gospel;
    • How to recognize signs of emotional and spiritual overdrive;
    • Rhythms of rest woven throughout Scripture; and
    • How God’s design for rest frees us.

    Subscribe today wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Find the show Notes: http://www.nae.org/wiserowepodcast

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    35 mins
  • Craig Keener | A Gospel More Vast and Beautiful
    Apr 15 2025

    What if the gospel is more vast, beautiful and multidimensional than we could ever imagine? Renowned New Testament scholar Dr. Craig Keener joins Today's Conversation podcast to deepen our understanding of what Jesus meant by the “good news,” how the early Christians received it, and how it transformed not just individual lives — but entire communities.

    While the gospel is often framed primarily in terms of the forgiveness of sins — a foundational and essential truth — it doesn’t stop there. In this theological rich conversation, NAE President Walter Kim and Dr. Craig Keener explore the far-reaching implications of the gospel, including:

    *Why the gospel is not just about personal salvation, but also about community renewal;

    *How followers of Jesus are invited to participate in God’s redemptive work in the world;

    *A call for today’s Church to reflect more fully the vision and mission of Jesus; and

    *How a deeper understanding of the gospel inspires us to live with greater purpose and hope.

    Today’s Conversation is a podcast of the National Association of Evangelicals. Listen on your favorite podcast app.

    Show notes here: https://www.nae.org/craig-keener-gospel-good-news-new-testament-jesus-todays-conversation-podcast/

    Watch the Interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pXYdarJtc0

    This episode was sponsored by World Vision: http://WorldVision.org/nextgen25

    #Gospel #GoodNews #CraigKeener #Theology #NewTestament #Evangelicals #NAE

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    36 mins
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