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Uncensored CMO

Uncensored CMO

By: Jon Evans
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The Uncensored CMO was created to explore the good, the bad and quite frankly downright ugly truth about marketing theory & practice.2024 Uncensored CMO Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • From CMO to CEO - advice from The Marketing Academy founder Sherilyn Shackell
    Jun 25 2025

    After 20 unhappy years as a headhunter, it took a near death experience for Sherilyn Shackell to launch The Marketing Academy, a non-profit organisation developing leadership talent in marketing. Launched in 2010, The Marketing Academy now helps marketers become CMOs and CMOs become CEOs. This episode, we focus on exactly how CMOs can get a seat at the table in the boardroom and all the traits they need to do this successfully.

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro
    00:53 - How a near death experience led to the creation of The Marketing Academy
    08:29 - Does trauma help founders?
    11:27 - What is The Marketing Academy?
    15:05 - How The Marketing Academy Fellowship helps CMOs become CEOs
    20:08 - Why there needs to be CMOs on boards
    27:03 - What CMOs can do to get on boards
    35:36 - Why CMOs need to build their own profiles
    39:23 - Why CMOs need to invest in relationships
    44:16 - Why having a personal brand is a talent magnet
    45:48 - The biggest fears and anxieties of CMOs
    54:34 - What marketers can learn from the best CMOs in the world?

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    1 hr
  • Live episode: Prof G vs Kory Marchisotto vs Rory Sutherland, a debate on brand, risk & the future of the CMO
    Jun 23 2025

    In a bonus live episode from Cannes, Professor Scott Galloway joins renowned CMO Kory Marchisotto (e.l.f. Beauty) and advertising legend Rory Sutherland to discuss three big topics: Is brand dead? Are we too risk-averse? And what is the future of the CMO?

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Start
    00:26 - Is the era of brand dead?
    13:54 - Do we need to make better advertising?
    20:11 - How CMOs can approach risk
    31:09 - The demise of the CMO

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    40 mins
  • Startup masterclass - how Seedlip went from idea to Diageo exit in 3.5 years - Ben Branson
    Jun 18 2025

    Ben Branson is the founder of Seedlip, a non-alcoholic spirit brand he started in 2015, and sold 3 years later to Diageo. Jon speaks to Ben about the origins of the brand, how the grew so fast, what makes Ben such an impressive marketer (despite him not liking marketing) and how a brand goes from 0 to exit in such a short space of time. We also talk about Ben's new brands and his Hidden 20% charity.

    Timestamps
    00:00:00 - SIntro
    00:01:01 - Where did the idea for Seedlip come from?
    00:14:14 - Charging a high price
    00:18:47 - How to push through the hard times
    00:21:10 - What led to such large growth in the early days of Seedlip
    00:24:29 - Planning for success vs making it up as you go
    00:27:44 - The power of intelligent naivety
    00:29:30 - Creativity within budget constraints
    00:31:05 - From innovator to scale up
    00:38:05 - Why did Ben Branson and Seedlip sell to Diageo?
    00:40:26 - What Ben doesn’t like about marketing
    00:41:25 - Why Ben is a masterful marketer
    00:48:51 - The Hidden 20%: Ben’s autism story and charity
    01:00:35 - Why Ben wants to close his charity, The Hidden 20%?

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    1 hr and 3 mins
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