“She knew who she was at a young age. She was able to pick herself up, dust herself off, and literally keep going no matter what cards were dealt to her.” - Ludie Montgomery, about her big sister Tammi Terrell

She was alive for just 24 years, but Tammi’s voice is immortal in pop music history. Her songs with Marvin Gaye have been sampled by Amy Winehouse, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Method Man and Mary J. Blige, and The Notorious B.I.G. When her fans are the greats, you know she was great herself! Tammi’s irrepressible spirit inspires us all to live life boldly, love openly, and shine brightly. There is no mountain high enough and no river wide enough to hold you back. “Tammi Terrell: Sweetheart of Motown” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 💚 Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!

Materials used for this episode:

Ludie Montgomery with Vickie Wright, “My Sister Tommie: The Real Tammi Terrell” (2024 ed.)

David Ritz, “Divided Soul: The Life of Marvin Gaye” (1991 ed.)

Unsung Season 3, episode 2, “Tammi Terrrell” (TVONE Network, 2010)

Art Peters, “The Ordeal of Tammi Terrell” Ebony Magazine 11/1969

(episode starts at 4:07)

Songs in this episode:

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - You’re All I Need To Get By (1968)

Mickey and Sylvia - Love Is Strange (1957)

Tammy Montgomery - If You See Bill (1961)

Ella Fitzgerald - Misty (1960)

Tammi Terrell - I Can’t Believe You Love Me (1965)

The Temptations - My Girl (1965)

Marvin Gaye - How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) [1965]

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - Ooh, The Simple Things (Coca Cola Jingle) [1967]

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - Ain’t Nothing Like The Real Thing (1968)

Tammi Terrell - Come On and See Me (1966)

Amy Winehouse - Tears Dry On Their Own (2006)

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - Ain’t No Mountain High Enough (1967)

“Love is my law. Truth is my worship. Beauty and perfection is my life.”

Girlfriend of Brian Jones. Friend to Andy Warhol. Muse to Richard Avedon, David Bailey, and Salvador Dali. She walked for Paco Rabanne and jet-hopped from New York, London, Paris, and Rome. Mannequins were made in her likeness. Harper’s Bazaar, Elle, Panorama, Queen, she was in them all. They scandalized her Playboy shoot and called her a kook. She was even the first Black woman on a Vogue cover!

But fashion history has forgotten her. The supermodel with an artist’s soul, her name is Donyale Luna. Donyale and her story are endlessly fascinating - and you can hear it all on the new Dolls Pod, available wherever you stream your podcasts 🌕

(Episode starts at 5:12)

Materials used in this episode:

“Donyale Luna: Supermodel” (dir. Naliah Jefferson, 2023)

Amira Castilla, “The Complex Life of Donyale Luna, The First Black Supermodel” The Root, 9/15/2023

Dream Cazzaniga, “Donyale Luna Changed The Face Of Fashion In The ’60s. Now, The Revolutionary Black Model Is Finally Getting Her Due” Vogue UK, 9/18/2023

Amira Dupuy, “'Donyale Luna: Supermodel' shines a light on the first Black model to grace cover of Vogue” Independent, 9/20/2023

Peter Sampson, “The Life and Legacy of Donyale Luna: The First Black Supermodel” Out On The Floor, 1/13/2025

“We never ever got as famous as The Beatles. But we started as friends, and we ended as friends.” - Sylvia Saunders, drummer of the Liverbirds

For the first time EVER on the Dolls Pod, we’re featuring a group! We’re telling the stories of Pam Birch, Val Gell, Mary McGlory, and Sylvia Saunders. Together, they’re more than Britain’s first all-female rock band…although that part is pretty cool! They’re four independent, self-actualized young women breaking music’s glass ceiling - and having a whole lot of fun doing it. This episode is for any girl in a band, or any girl who’s ever wanted to be in a band 🐦‍⬛ “It’s Liverbirds, Not Liverbirds” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts!

We’d like to thank Mark Berman (@fullyinvolvedmark on TikTok) for tipping Abby off to Mary and Sylvia’s memoir

Materials used for this episode:

Mary McGlory and Sylvia Saunders, “The Other Fab Four: The Remarkable True Story of the Liverbirds, Britain’s First Female Rock Band” (2024)

“‘Girls don’t play guitars!’ The Liverbirds Story” BBC Outlook, 4/17/2024

“We Made Rock History. Here’s Why You Don’t Know Us.” “Almost Famous” by Op-Docs, The New York Times (dir. Ben Proudfoot, 12/18/2019)

(episode starts at 6:13)

Songs in this episode:

“Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood” Theme Song

The Kaye Sisters - Paper Roses (1960)

Cliff Richard - Move It (1958)

The Searchers - Apache (1962)

The Beatles - Please Please Me (1962)

The Rolling Stones - I Wanna Be Your Man (1963)

The Kinks - You Really Got Me (1964)

The Kinks - All Day and All of the Night (1964)

The Liverbirds - Roadrunner (1965)

The Liverbirds - Johnny B Goode (1965)

The Liverbirds - Peanut Butter (Live on Beat Club, 9/25/1965)

The Liverbirds - For Your Love (1966)

Jimi Hendrix - Wild Thing (Live at Monterey Pop, 6/18/1967)

The Liverbirds - Cavern Stomp (2025)

Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see photos and clips from this episode!