In medicine, we get the message early on that perfect is the standard. But perfectionism takes a toll on our mental health, our self esteem, and our personal life. It’s a trap that’s the polar opposite of joy. Join me and my guest Dr. Katie Jobbins as we investigate the causes, costs, and solutions for perfectionism.

Katie Jobbins, DO, MS, FACP, is an Associate Program Director and Associate Professor in the Department of Medicine at UMass Chan Medical School-Baystate, with a passion for coaching, mentoring and professional development in medical education, and physician well-being. She can be reached at Kathryn.Jobbins@baystatehealth.org or on Instagram at @kjobbins.

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

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If there is one thing that healthcare professionals learn early on, it is “at all costs, self-sacrifice.” It’s the water we swim in. What are the costs? How do we begin to “see” the water? What can we do to shift so that we get our basic needs met? And, how does Maslow’s hierarchy of needs fit in here?

Find out by listening in on my conversation with my friend and colleague, Dr. Jennifer Clark. Dr. Clark is an allopathic physician who has practiced Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, Palliative Medicine for nearly twenty-five years. At the bedside and in the boardroom, she has served to heal, educate, and innovate toward the relief of suffering and promotion of well-being.

Dr. Clark’s first book, Suffer., is expected to be released in early October. Contact Dr. Clark at https://thegiftofchoosing.com/ or linkedin.com/in/jennifer-clark-04b627126.

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

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Are women physicians paid less because they work fewer hours? It’s a justification we’ve heard before. What does the research say?

Ishani Ganguli, MD, MPH is an Associate Professor of Medicine, health services researcher, and practicing primary care internist at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital. Her research focuses on primary care payment, delivery, and policy; the use and consequences of low-value care; innovation and tradeoffs in ambulatory care for older adults; and gender equity. In this episode, we explore the underlying causes of the gender pay gap in medicine. Contact Dr. Ganguli at her website: www.ishaniganguli.com/.

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

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Mary Beth Miotto, MD, MPH is a pediatrician at a community health center in Boston and president of the Massachusetts Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatricians. Her passion is child health advocacy and policy. In this episode, you’ll learn why focusing on managing time misses the boat and how to own our energy instead. Contact Dr. Miotto at madocforkids@gmail.com.

Like what you heard? Listen to more episodes with Dr. Diane Shannon on our podcast Vital Signs: Thriving as Women in Medicine

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

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Lisa Rotenstein, MD, MBA, MSc is an assistant professor at the University of California—San Francisco and Director of the Center for Physician and Practice Excellence. Her passion is ensuring the well-being of the healthcare workforce with particular focus on women in medicine. In this episode, you’ll learn why we should be emulating the work patterns of women physicians rather than trying to “fix” them. Contact me at diane@dianeshannon.com for a list of citations from this episode. Contact Dr. Rotenstein at https://profiles.ucsf.edu/lisa.rotenstein.

Like what you heard? Listen to more episodes with Dr. Diane Shannon on our podcast Vital Signs: Thriving as Women in Medicine

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

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Many of us have times in our lives where we feel stuck. Rather than sink, with the right approach we can use these times to pivot to something even better. Dr. Tricia Wooden has some amazing insights and tips for how to do just that.

Tricia Wooden, MD is a family physician and system director for clinician well-being at a large health system. Her passion is creating spaces where clinicians can flourish. Contact Dr. Wooden at Tricia@wooden.com.

Like what you heard? Listen to more episodes with Dr. Diane Shannon on our podcast Vital Signs: Thriving as Women in Medicine

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

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Do you have a tendency to fill any time slots that appear with more “productive tasks”? While it feels like this moves us ahead in our professional lives, there are associated costs. Join my conversation with Dr. Virginia O’Hayer as we dive into creating pockets of down time: why we should and how to do it!

Virginia O’Hayer, PhD is a Clinical Psychologist and Professor at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital. Her passion is empowering women in medicine to live their most effective, fulfilling, and fun lives. Contact Dr. O’Hayer at www.OHayerPsych.com or virginia.ohayer@jefferson.edu.

Like what you heard? Listen to more episodes with Dr. Diane Shannon on our podcast Vital Signs: Thriving as Women in Medicine

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

Share your experience and continue the conversation with Diane at www.dianeshannon.com or www.linkedin.com/in/dianewshannon

The journey to become a physician can lead us to focus on achieving, sometimes to our own detriment. In fact, many clinicians miss getting basic needs met (think Maslow’s hierarchy) as they try to meet perceived expectations. How can we begin to set boundaries around those expectations so that we can preserve our energy and be our best selves? Listen to our conversation to find out!

Diane Sliwka, MD, is a Hospital Medicine Physician and Chief Physician Experience Officer at UCSF. Her passion is how we make life better through personal and organizational change. Contact Dr. Sliwka at diane.sliwka@ucsf.edu or at linkedin.com/in/diane-sliwka-md-59122413b.

Like what you heard? Listen to more episodes with Dr. Diane Shannon on our podcast Vital Signs: Thriving as Women in Medicine

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Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH, PCC is an internal medicine physician, award-winning writer, and certified coach. She understands the stresses inherent in the practice of medicine and the additional challenges that women face in the profession. Her passion is helping women in medicine create lives where they can thrive.

Share your experience and continue the conversation with Diane at www.dianeshannon.com or www.linkedin.com/in/dianewshannon