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What in the Word?

What in the Word?

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"What in the world does that verse mean?" This show tackles the hardest Bible verses to understand. Each episode, host Kirk E. Miller interviews an expert guest to discuss a text in the Bible that is known to be challenging to interpret. They do in-depth Bible study and survey scholars' interpretations. By investigating the strangest and hardest Bible verses, What in the Word? gets below the surface to learn their implications for understanding God and living the Christian life. Subscribe and join us weekly on Spotify, YouTube, and other podcast platforms. Learn more: https://bit.ly/3DYhMjPPresented by Logos Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
Episodes
  • Why in the Word? | A Behind the Scenes Recap of Season 1
    Jun 11 2025

    What in the Word? wraps up a rich and thought-provoking first season. In this special finale, host Kirk E. Miller turns the mic on himself, as Matt Barrios, the show’s producer, leads a reflective interview covering lessons learned, favorite passages, surprising insights, and behind-the-scenes moments.


    From tackling tough texts like Genesis 6, 1 Corinthians 15, and the Canaanite conquest to unforgettable interviews with scholars like Carmen Imes, Lynn Cohick, and Mike Horton, this recap offers a meaningful look back—and a peek forward at what’s to come in Season 2.


    Explore more: https://www.logos.com/grow/witw-season-1-recap?utm_campaign=show-witw&utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=social

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    13 mins
  • Is the Song Allegorical? | Fellipe do Vale on Song of Solomon
    Jun 4 2025

    What’s the Song of Solomon really about? Is the Song a literal love poem, an allegory of God’s love, or something in between


    In this episode of What in the Word?, Kirk E. Miller is joined by Fellipe do Vale to explore the interpretive challenges of one of the Bible’s more difficult books. They examine the Song of Song's character dynamics, imagery, and theological purpose as wisdom literature.


    Discover how the Song contributes to a biblical vision of love and redemption.


    Learn more and get special offers from Logos: https://www.logos.com/grow/witw-song-of-solomon?utm_campaign=show-witw&utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=social


    Disclaimer: Logos values thoughtful and engaging discussions on important biblical topics. However, the views and interpretations presented in this episode are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Logos. We recognize that Christians may hold different perspectives on this passage, and we welcome diverse engagement and respectful dialogue.


    Outline:

    00:00 Introduction: The Song of Solomon Debate

    00:57 Meet Dr. Felipe Devele

    01:25 Felipe's Journey and Specialization

    02:30 Diving into the Song of Songs

    04:03 Overview and Challenges of Interpretation

    06:17 Historical and Theological Context

    10:52 Debates and Interpretations

    20:34 Marriage as a Metaphor in Scripture

    24:09 Exploring the Song of Songs

    24:50 Biblical Imagery in the Song of Songs

    25:49 The Garden and Temple Imagery

    29:13 Human and Divine Love in the Song of Songs

    31:30 Edenic Imagery and Redemption

    39:57 The Power of Love and Its Theological Implications

    43:23 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    47 mins
  • What Does It Mean to Work Out Our Salvation? | Lynn Cohick on Philippians 2:12–13
    May 28 2025

    In this episode of What in the Word?, Lynn H. Cohick joins Kirk E. Miller to unpack Paul's exhortation in Philippians 2:12–13.


    What does it mean to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling”? Does this imply salvation is earned? How do we reconcile Paul’s call to action with his insistence elsewhere that salvation is not by works?


    Together, Kirk and Lynn explore the passage’s literary and theological context, its implications for how we think about salvation and sanctification, and how this text shapes the Christian life.


    Explore more: https://www.logos.com/grow/witw-work-out-your-salvation?utm_campaign=show-witw&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social


    Disclaimer:

    Logos values thoughtful and engaging discussions on important biblical topics. However, the views and interpretations presented in this episode are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Logos. We recognize that Christians may hold different perspectives on this passage, and we welcome diverse engagement and respectful dialogue.


    Episode outline:

    00:00 Introduction to Paul's Teachings on Salvation

    00:28 Show Introduction and Listener Engagement

    01:03 Guest Introduction: Dr. Lynn Cohick

    01:39 Dr. Cohick's Background and Work

    03:59 Context of Philippians and Paul's Relationship with the Philippians

    08:47 Analyzing Philippians 2:12-13

    10:44 Understanding Salvation in Paul's Writings

    18:03 Theological and Ethical Implications of Salvation

    23:11 Working Out Salvation: Practical Insights

    26:23 The Whole Body Experience of Salvation

    27:30 The Process of Sanctification

    28:16 Community and Salvation

    29:14 Unity in the Church

    32:35 The Role of Citizenship in Philippians

    39:18 Fear and Trembling in Salvation

    43:12 Grace, Works, and Salvation

    50:30 Practical Applications and Teaching

    52:22 Conclusion and Call to Action

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    53 mins
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