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Wild Card - Whose Shoes?

Wild Card - Whose Shoes?

By: Gill Phillips @WhoseShoes
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Welcome to Wild Card – Whose Shoes! Walking in the shoes of more interesting people 😉 My name is Gill Phillips and I’m the creator of Whose Shoes, a popular approach to coproduction and I am known for having an amazing network. Building on my inclusion in the Health Services Journal ‘WILD CARDS’, part of #HSJ100, and particularly the shoutout for ‘improving care for some of the most vulnerable in society through co-production’, I enjoy chatting to a really diverse group of people, providing a platform for them to speak about their experiences and viewpoints. If you are interested in the future of healthcare and like to hear what other people think, or perhaps even contribute at some point, ‘Whose Shoes Wild Card’ is for you! Find me on Twitter @WhoseShoes and @WildCardWS and dive into https://padlet.com/WhoseShoes/overview to find out more! Artwork aided and abetted by Anna Geyer, New Possibilities.

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  • 68. “Every Life Matters” – an extraordinary conversation with Benedicte Symcox
    Jun 28 2025

    🎙 “You’re amazing!” But what if hearing that doesn’t feel amazing at all?

    In this powerful and deeply moving episode, Gill Phillips meets awesome Benedicte Symcox – parent carer, founder of Tugboat SEND Navigation, and passionate advocate for children and adults with complex needs.

    Benedicte’s story is breathtaking. From the moment they met at Yvonne Newbold’s wedding (!), Gill and Benedicte struck up an instant connection – and this podcast brings it to life. With wisdom, humour, brutal honesty, and astonishing lived experience, Benedicte takes us on a journey through parenting three very different children – each with their own profound challenges and triumphs.

    🎧 Expect to hear:

    • The rollercoaster of navigating health, education, and social care systems
    • Teenage mental health, neurodiversity, and diagnostic overshadowing
    • Raw conversations about suicide, resilience, and “extreme parenting”
    • How Benedicte’s lived experience powers her work supporting other families through Tugboat
    • Why kindness, curiosity and valuing every life are non-negotiables in a broken system

    This episode goes live in #CoProductionWeek - the week that #MPFTWhoseShoes, the extraordinary Whose Shoes journey to better support children and families, is showcased in Staffordshire.

    With her signature wit and passion, Benedicte reminds us why real voices matter.

    This is one for the ninja parents, the professionals trying to do better, and anyone who wants to understand what truly matters.

    🍋💡🍋 Lemon lightbulbs

    🍋 Every life matters – regardless of age, ability, or achievements.

    🍋 Stay curious, be kind

    🍋 No one’s coming to save you – a tough truth from Yvonne Newbold that hits hard but empowers families to take action

    🍋 Value doesn't come from capability – our culture must stop measuring people’s worth by what they can do or produce

    🍋 You can't fix what you don't truly see – honest, raw stories like Benedicte’s open eyes and hearts

    🍋 Children with complex needs are not always ‘inspirational’—they’re human.
    They get stroppy, funny, scared, brilliant... just like any child

    🍋 Diagnostic overshadowing destroys lives – assuming one label explains everything leads to devastating gaps in support

    🍋 We need to talk about suicide – actually talk about it – no euphemisms, no sidestepping. Say the word. Save lives.

    🍋 Professionals are often also parent carers : dual perspective

    🍋 Honesty matters more than heroics – saying “this is hard” is more powerful than pretending to cope

    🍋 Sometimes kindness means saying uncomfortable things

    🍋 Honest conversations are vital – especially around 'taboo' topics : sex, disability, parenting, mental health

    🍋 Parenting doesn’t come with guarantees – ‘success’ can mean just surviving another day

    🍋 Systems should support families, not punish them – blaming parents, gatekeeping support, and making people fight for help is not acceptable.

    🍋 Hope lives in connection – whether through a podcast, a wedding, or a kindness conversation, real change starts with human stories

    Links

    Tugboat SEND Navigation – Steering you through SEND waters

    Please visit the episodes with Cath Crock, Bob Klaber and Steven Russell


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    59 mins
  • 67. VE Day Special - Dulcie Matthews and Dorothy Hall - Hope, Resilience, and the Spirit of Coventry
    May 5 2025

    🎙 Episode 67: Dulcie Matthews and Dorothy Hall – Hope, Resilience, and the Spirit of Coventry

    This very special VE Day episode of Wild Card – Whose Shoes? is a real treat. 🕊️

    Join me, Gill Phillips, as I welcome two extraordinary women: Dorothy Hall, familiar to listeners from Episode 64, and her equally inspirational friend Dulcie Matthews, aged 88.

    Dulcie grew up in wartime Coventry, and shares her moving memories of a city scarred by bombs but brimming with resilience. Her evocative memoir From Paradise to Eden brings the 1940s vividly to life — and today, she brings that world to us through her words, wit, and warmth. 🌸

    In a beautifully candid conversation, Dulcie and Dorothy reflect on ageing, creativity, and retaining a sense of identity and purpose when society would often rather render older people invisible.

    ✨ From Dulcie’s lockdown poems and fairy tales for her great-granddaughter to their joyful adventures searching for "fairy doors," this episode is packed with wisdom, hope, and humour.

    We talk about social prescribing, the healing power of music and nature, grief and resilience — and dreaming up a bold new vision for compassionate care in later life.

    🍋💡🍋 Lemon lightbulbs

    🍋 You are still you
    Despite how society treats older people, identity, creativity, and inner fire do not fade with age

    🍋 Stay curious and always say yes
    Dulcie has stayed open to life’s opportunities, even through deep grief and loss

    🍋 Creativity is an escape — and a lifeline
    Nature, writing, fairy stories, and music offer not just escape, but deep healing.

    🍋 Invisible no more
    Calling out the way healthcare systems often marginalize older people — and fighting to be seen and heard.

    🍋 Rediscover your roots
    Dulcie rekindling her love for Coventry reminds us that reconnecting with our past can offer hope for the future

    🍋 The world changes — and we adapt
    From wartime Coventry to lockdown Britain, Dulcie’s reflections show resilience as a constant thread through life

    🍋 Music unlocks memory, joy, and connection
    The powerful role of music in both healthcare and daily life — lifting spirits and bridging generations

    🍋 Imagination is ageless
    Whether it's fairy tales or reimagining community care, creativity thrives at every age, so support people to use their skills and feel they can contribute

    🍋 Challenge stereotypes by living fully
    Wearing jeans, playing piano, creating stories — refusing to be boxed in by other people’s ideas of ‘old age.’

    🍋 Reimagine care: people first, not conditions
    A visionary idea: flexible, creative care communities inspired by the hospice model but open to all

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    Dorothy's key message? "Be more imaginative about how care is offered "

    Dulcie’s key message? "Stay curious. Always say yes!"

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    This is a celebration of courage, creativity, and connection — the spirit that saw Coventry rise again after WWII, and the same spirit that Dulcie and Dorothy embody today ❤️

    🌟 A heartfelt thank you to Dulcie and Dorothy for sharing their stories so openly. A perfect listen to inspire you this VE Day.

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    55 mins
  • 66. Dr Guddi Singh - Radically reimagining health care
    Apr 6 2025

    In this electric, soul-stirring conversation, Dr Guddi Singh joins me to explore what it truly means to radically reimagine health. From the frontline realities of paediatrics to the bold edges of creative health and social justice, Guddi brings her full, vibrant self — and invites us all to do the same.

    We talk about what’s broken in our health system, why simply fixing sickness isn’t enough, and how real health is built in homes and communities, not hospitals.

    We shine a light on creative co-production, interdisciplinary approaches, and the untapped power of arts, storytelling and relationships to transform healthcare.

    Guddi describes herself as a closet creative and lifelong learner, and you’ll hear exactly why — from training citizen scientists to founding WHAM (Wellbeing and Health Action Movement) and leading the Powering Up project.

    This episode is bursting with energy, honesty, hope¦ and a few well-placed mic drops.

    Lemon lightbulbs 🍋💡🍋

    🍋 Health is not built in hospitals – it’s built in our homes and communities

    🍋 A child cannot be healthy if the context they live in is sick - we have to treat the context – hunger, poverty, poor housing – not just the symptoms

    🍋 “I’m a closet creative trapped in the body of a doctor” : Guddi’s mission blends creativity, academia, activism, and medicine to drive meaningful change

    🍋 The system doesn’t work for patients — and it doesn’t really work for staff

    🍋 There’s no KPI for what actually matters — to patients or professionals

    🍋 Maybe the most powerful KPI is: Will you remember this? Did it change you?

    🍋 Human connection doesn’t fit in a spreadsheet – but it’s what makes the work meaningful.

    🍋 Fixing health inequalities starts with ordinary clinicians and patients, and creative approaches

    🍋 Powering Up isn’t a project – it’s a movement

    🍋 It’s hard to lie to kids - Powering up unearthed the real issues

    🍋 The system may be blind, but our stories can open its eyes

    🍋 Dance saved my life. Why isn’t creative health part of the NHS mainstream?

    🍋 We’re lighting up little patches of the world. What if we joined the dots?

    🍋 We’re not alone — it’s time to bring our lemon lightbulbs together


    Links:

    Wellbeing and Health Action Movement (WHAM)

    Powering Up Project

    National Centre for Creative Health

    Episode 54: Dr Mary Salama - connecting across boundaries

    Episode 57 : Dr Tom Holliday - children get less


    Join the Movement

    This is more than a conversation It’s a call to action. Whether you’re a clinician, creative, policymaker or passionate citizen, this episode will leave you asking:

    What’s my role in radically reimagining health?

    #coproduction


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