Let’s be real. This one is for the woman juggling healing, hustle, motherhood, and a whole lot of prayers in between. Sarah Jakes Roberts sits down with Dr. Jasmine Williams for a conversation that’s as transparent as it is transformative. From navigating a messy divorce and battling addiction to building a thriving business and becoming the first millionaire in her family, Dr. Jasmine doesn’t hold back.

They talk co-parenting when the peace feels impossible, building with what you’ve got (even if it’s just an iPhone and a robe), and choosing to believe in what could be, even when life feels like it’s falling apart. Whether you’re in a dark season or walking out your healing one baby step at a time, this episode is a reminder that God's plan still stands. The audacity to grow, dream, and be better than what tried to break you? It’s already in you. Tap in and take your permission slip.

Let’s clear this up real quick: being a leader isn’t always about having a mic or a massive following. It’s about carrying vision. Heavy on the carrying. In this special session from The Called Conference 2025, Sarah Jakes Roberts opens up about her own leadership journey and what it looks like to lead while feeling reluctant, unsure, or unqualified. She breaks down the difference between being a visionary and being a leader, what to do when the vision feels blurry, and how to shift from striving to surrender. From team building and value alignment to navigating change and knowing when to come off autopilot, SJR reminds us that real leadership starts with sensitivity, not status. If you’ve been tying your identity to your outcomes or wondering if you’re built for what God showed you, this is your invitation to move with reverence, release the pressure, and lead like the earth is waiting on what you’re carrying because it is.