This week, hosts Laura Louise Green and Kate McKiernan talk with Colorado ED Nurse Jill Hapak about her experience and thoughts about watching The Pitt while working in a trauma center. This episode was recorded March 30, 2025.

Guess how many names Laura messes up. (She meant Charlie Cox, not Charlie Day, and no, she did not say Steven.)

SPOILERS & MENTIONS: The Pitt, ER, The Studio, The Bear, White Lotus, Grey's Anatomy, Chicago Hope, Sirens, Bosch, Yellowjackets

TRIGGER WARNINGS: Mentions of suicide, physical violence, gun violence, mass casualty incidents, trauma, death & dying, substance use, and addiction

REFERENCED WORK:

Matthew Barzun, ⁠The Power of Giving Away Power⁠

Amy Edmundson, ⁠Psychological Safety and Learning Behavior in Work Teams⁠

Christina Maslach & Michael Leiter, ⁠The Burnout Challenge⁠

Christina Maslach & Michael Leiter, ⁠Understanding the burnout experience: recent research and its implications for psychiatry⁠

First off, Christopher Guest is not here. Sorry.

Second, this is the first episode of Workplace Drama, the podcast that explores the impact and reflections of the workplace in popular media. Hosts Laura Louise Green and Kate McKiernan kick off the series by discussing the current state of TV and some of their favorite shows and hopes for the future of this podcast.

Welcome, and we're happy to have you.

Shows Discussed (so, spoiler warnings!): Severance, White Lotus, The Bear, The Pitt