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The Origin of America's Clovis Culture
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A major, groundbreaking work on early European migration to North America.
Who were the first humans to inhabit North America? According to the now familiar story, mammal hunters entered the continent some 12,000 years ago via a land bridge that spanned the Bering Sea. The presence of these early New World people was established by distinctive stone tools belonging to the Clovis culture. But are the Clovis tools Asian in origin? Drawing from original archaeological analysis, paleoclimatic research, and genetic studies, noted archaeologists Dennis J. Stanford and Bruce A. Bradley challenge the old narrative and, in the process, counter traditional - and often subjective - approaches to archaeological testing for historical relatedness.
The authors apply rigorous scholarship to a hypothesis that places the technological antecedents of Clovis in Europe and posits that the first Americans crossed the Atlantic by boat and arrived earlier than previously thought. Supplying archaeological and oceanographic evidence to support this assertion, the book dismantles the old paradigm while persuasively linking Clovis technology with the culture of the Solutrean people who occupied France and Spain more than 20,000 years ago.
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- Narrated by: John Sackville
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A fascinating investigation of the origin of humans based on incredible new discoveries and advanced scientific technology.
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Wonderfully Accessible
- By Deborah N on 11-02-21
By: Tom Higham
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Masters of the Planet
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- By: Ian Tattersall
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 8 hrs and 43 mins
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Fifty thousand years ago - merely a blip in evolutionary time - our Homo sapiens ancestors were competing for existence with several other human species, just as their precursors had done for millions of years. Yet something about our species distinguished it from the pack, and ultimately led to its survival while the rest became extinct. Just what was it that allowed Homo sapiens to become masters of the planet? Ian Tattersall, curator emeritus at the American Museum of Natural History, takes us deep into the fossil record to uncover what made humans so special.
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Great Book, Some Sloppy Editing
- By DB on 11-23-20
By: Ian Tattersall
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Today it is common knowledge that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteorite impact 65 million years ago that killed half of all species then living. It is far less widely understood that a much greater catastrophe took place at the end of the Permian period 251 million years ago: at least 90 percent of life on earth was destroyed. When Life Nearly Died documents not only what happened during this gigantic mass extinction, but also the recent renewal of the idea of catastrophism.
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Obscurity to Enlightenment - A Mystery Revealed
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From Graham Hancock, best-selling author of Fingerprints of the Gods, comes a mesmerizing book that takes us on a captivating underwater voyage to find the ruins of a lost civilization that's been hidden for thousands of years beneath the world's oceans. While Graham Hancock is no stranger to stirring up heated controversy among scientific experts, his books and television documentaries have intrigued millions of people around the world and influenced many to rethink their views about the origins of human civilization.
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- Hybrid Humans, Göbekli Tepe, and the Genesis of the Giants of Ancient America
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- Narrated by: Micah Hanks
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Tracing the migrations of the Denisovans and their interbreeding with Neanderthals and early human populations in Asia, Europe, Australia, and the Americas, Andrew Collins and Greg Little explore how the new mental capabilities of the Denisovan-Neanderthal and Denisovan-human hybrids greatly accelerated the flowering of human civilization over 40,000 years ago. They show how the Denisovans displayed sophisticated advances, including precision-machined stone tools and jewelry, tailored clothing, celestially-aligned architecture, and horse domestication.
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Big History, the field that studies the entire known past of our universe to give context to human existence, has so far been the domain of historians. Geologist Walter Alvarez - best known for his Impact Theory explaining dinosaur extinction - makes a compelling case for a new, science-first approach to Big History.
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Learned so much
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By: Walter Alvarez
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The Great Warming
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Good book but unpracticed, disjointed narration.
- By Paul on 09-12-10
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Who Discovered America?
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Greatly expanding on his blockbuster 1421, distinguished historian Gavin Menzies uncovers the complete untold history of how mankind came to the Americas - offering new revelations and a radical rethinking of the accepted historical record in Who Discovered America? The iconoclastic historian's magnum opus, Who Discovered America? calls into question our understanding of how the American continents were settled, shedding new light on the well-known "discoveries" of European explorers, including Christopher Columbus.
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Like reading an appendix
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Dark Emu
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Dark Emu argues for a reconsideration of the 'hunter-gatherer' tag for pre-colonial Aboriginal Australians and attempts to rebut the colonial myths that have worked to justify dispossession. Accomplished author Bruce Pascoe provides compelling evidence from the diaries of early explorers that suggests that systems of food production and land management have been understated in modern retellings of Aboriginal history, and that a new look at Australia's past is required.
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One of the best books ever!!!!
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Ancient Bones
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Africa has long been considered the cradle of life - where life and humans evolved - but somewhere west of Munich, Germany, paleoclimatologist and paleontologist Madelaine Böhme and her team make a discovery that is beyond anything they ever imagined: the 12-million-year-old bones of an ancient ape - Danuvius guggenmos - which makes headlines around the world and defies prevailing theories of human history and where human life began.
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Brave Attempt
- By Bill Treat on 10-15-22
By: Madelaine Böhme
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- CBuk61
- 05-10-22
A Convincing Theoretical Proof
This book is meant as an theoretical proof to academic peers and not a history for an amateur. Excessive details and probable what-if’s distract from an amazing theory and story.
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- bryan
- 04-30-13
Science in progress...
Science is a messy process. That being said, this is not just the story of the populating of the Americas, this is the story of science itself. This is a story of new ideas challenging the old, new evidence, and the search for a better understanding of the facts. Many of the chapters can get bogged down with excessive detail about flintknapping but it definitely adds to the understanding and evidence for much bigger points. The way the Americas were populated is obviously complex with many subtleties. This book does not declare and defend one position only, it shows more complexity and brings more understanding to this most interesting subject.
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- Beth
- 06-21-12
A groundbreaking book I can listen to
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For anyone interested in the subject, this is a must book and audiobook. I’m glad it’s on audio. The authors back up their theory with solid evidence, and the prehistorical narrative they tell is fascinating. The writing is clear and informative, despite being technical at times. I bought this audiobook because the reviews on Amazon are excellent. I agree with the vast majority of the reviewers that this is an exciting, groundbreaking book. I think the narrator does a very good job with the material, and makes Across Atlantic Ice easy to listen to.
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- watermeloncrush282
- 06-23-22
The most informative book on Clovis peoples
This is the most informative book on Clovis peoples I have ever read. It was very well researched and meticulously written. I enjoyed it thoroughly!!!!
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- Kari
- 04-22-13
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It was a great book, but it would have been better to have the illustrations/photographs in front of me. This is why I have it 3 stars as an overall rating. Had nothing to do with the book or narrator.
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- Jonathan Donner
- 06-07-21
A beautiful blend of archeology and science.
I really enjoyed this work. Archeologists and scientists must never stop asking questions even if they are not main stream. This work asks the reader to listen to the data, imagine the lives of humans 20k years ago, and rethink the stuff we were taught in schools.
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- stephen j wood
- 07-20-22
I love the Solutrean theories
This is such a wonderful compilation of
Ancient archaeology and trying to make sense of the findings
At this point in human history
We need to embrace that there always was climate change and learn how to adapt- with lower cost ways.
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- Rickey P. Brumfield
- 06-09-15
Fantastic
if you are into prehistoric North America this the book. it turns the populating of the Americas on its ear. This truly great study on Pre-clovis. Should be required reading for all students in the studies of archeological paths.
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- Thomas J Wanko III
- 07-26-19
Intriguing
The theory is presented well and provides valuable insights into the Mesolithic. The authors cite a large array of supporting material. And while the authors admit their argument is theory and speculation based on available evidence, there are a number of speculations which I found unsatisfactory. I still like the book but am not convinced the ideas will hold up.
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- Mark Vogt
- 02-02-22
You WILL be reading this MANY TIMES !
GREAT read !
GREATER AUDIO BOOK - because you're going to find yourself listening to this book over & over & over, each time absorbing different thoughts, even as the authors (credible and card-carrying SCIENTISTS themselves) must have gradually "absorbed" each minor revelation and epiphany from their independent decades-long field work. And even as these scientists-authors gradually found each epiphany either pushing them AWAY from the Beringea-First Theory or pulling the TOWARD their own fledgling-but-inconceivable SOLUTREANS-FIRST Theory, they do a masterful job of taking you the Reader on that same journey !
It's REFRESHING to have a book authored by writers who treat their audience, their readers as PEERS; and not even "like-minded" peers, but simply "open-minded" peers, each possessing a reasonable level of intelligence and common sense.
I'm 60 years old and a professional Data Scientist/AI Solution Architect.
I've long thought that there was "something missing" in the Beringea-First Theory. It simply doesn't seem complete.
The authors Bradley and Stanford do a masterful, comfortable, peer-level job of offering objectively examining ALL of the FACTS currently available in North America, in Northeast Asia (Beringea) and in Northwest Europe (Solutrea), and ALLOWING themselves to FOLLOW these facts toward what SIMPLE MAKES SENSE given ALL the current data: Solutreans ARE Clovis and WERE the EARLIEST peoples in North America.
For this northern Minnesotan who learned to build "quanchees" (igloos built in MINUTES from simply shoveling snow into a pile and then digging it out) even when he was a young boy, actually living and THRIVING outside in the cold & snow is no big deal, so it WOULDN'T have been a big deal to the Solutreans any more than today's INUITS. The authors do an excellent job of DRIVING THAT POINT HOME - that the Solutreans WEREN'T "fighting the elements, hoping desperately for LAND", but rather quite the OPPOSITE: the Solutreans were AT HOME on the edge of the ice and water, because THAT'S WHERE THEIR FOOD SUPPLY WAS.
HERE'S a final note I jotted down in my audiobook in the final chapter:
The "universe" of the Solutreans DIDN'T include the (silly) rule "Stay close to LAND";
The "universe" of the Solutreans DID include the (intelligent) rule "Stay close to your FOOD SUPPLY"
The "universe" of the Solutions ALSO included the (intelligent) rule "If it's safe for your FOOD SUPPLY, it's safe for YOU"
The Solutreans food supply was (likely) SEALS and AUKS and PENGUINS and WHALES
We already know from research in antarctica that KRILL actually THRIVE in the waters off the ICE EDGE;
SO...
The KRILL lived and thrived at the EDGE of the ICE...
The FISH (and BALEEN WHALES too I suppose) followed the KRILL...
The SEALS and AUKS and PENGUINS followed the FISH...
The SOLUTREANS followed the SEALS and AUKS and PENGUINS and WHALES...
NO BIG DEAL.
The KRILL "MIGRATED" along the Labrador Current from EAST to WEST...
The FISH "MIGRATED" with the KRILL...
The SEALS and AUKS and PENGUINS and WHALES "MIGRATED" with the FISH...
The SOLUTREANS "MIGRATED" with the SEALS and AUKS and PENGUINS and WHALES.
Only NO ONE was thinking "hey I'm MIGRATING"
- NOT the KRILL
- NOT the FISH
- NOT the SEAL or AUKS or PENGUINS or WHALES
- NOT the SOLUTREANS
Instead their "universe" was much SMALLER and more FOCUSED than that: "I'm going where there's FOOD"
Eventually the SEALS and AUKS and PENGUINS arrived on the SHORE of a distance land.
The SOLUTREANS were right on their heels.
THAT land is now under 300+ feet of melted iced (seawater).
BUT...
There were almost certainly myriad EGG-LAYING LAND BIRDS LAYING EGGS IN CLIFFS up there in eastern North America.
The SOLUTREANS would have SEEN these populations, and went after their EGGS.
Eggs up in the CLIFFs.
Cliffs which were present during the Last Glacial Maximum.
Cliffs which are STILL AROUND TODAY.
The Solutreans - be COMPLETE & UTTER NOMADS capable of traveling and living ANYWHERE - would almost certainly have SET UP CAMPS near the EGGS in the CLIFFS; I mean WHY WOULDN'T THEY?
Cliffs that were above ground 30,000 YEARS ago...
Cliffs that are above ground EVEN TODAY.
Perhaps we're TRYING TOO HARD seeking for evidence of Solutreans UNDER WATER that was shoreline 30 millenia ago.
Perhaps we SHOULD be seeking for evidence of Solutreans IN THE CLIFFS that are STILL "CLIFFS" even today.
What we should find are STONE TOOLS, quite alright...
... AND remnants of SLEDS that were easily transformed into BOATS which were just-as-easily-transformed into SHELTERS and maybe even SLEDS again, because that's what the INUITS can do TODAY, and it only makes sense that the SOLUTREANS were equal as "TRANSFORMERS" living in between worlds of land and ice and water.
HOW WE'LL KNOW WE'VE FOUND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR...
- we'll see SLED remnants with HOLES that DON'T NEED TO BE THERE
- holes hinting that the PARTS of the SLEDS were at one time SOMETHING ELSE - like an UMIAK portable/flexible/EDIBLE boat !
- we'll see SHELTER remnants with PARTS and HOLES that DON'T NEED TO BE THERE
- holes and parts hinting that the SHELTER was at one time SOMETHING ELSE - a SLED. a BOAT. a TOOL.
WHAT WE WON'T FIND:
- a HEARTH or signs of PERMANENT dwelling and WOOD BURNING, because Solutreans DIDN'T BURN wood, but OIL.
WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND:
- We have to look for what the Solutreans actually USED and actually DISCARDED and actually LEFT;
- We have to STOP looking for what Solutreans DIDN'T use and DIDN'T discard and DIDN'T leave.
Enjoyed the HECK out of this book !
-Mark Vogt, North Aurora IL USA
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