Destined for Joy
The Gospel of Universal Salvation
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Featuring a Foreword by Bradley Jersak and Afterword by David Bentley Hart
“This is a book that many of us have been waiting for for a long time . . . Enthusiastically recommended!” (Robin A. Parry, Ph.D., Anglican priest, editor, and author of The Evangelical Universalist)
Destined for Joy is a collection of essays devoted to the theme of the absolute love of God and the gospel of universal salvation. Written over a period of 10 years and revised for publication in this volume, they represent the fruition of the author’s theological and spiritual development over a span of four decades in parish ministry. If God has truly revealed himself in his incarnate Son Jesus Christ as absolute and unconditional love, does this not mean that he intends the salvation of all? As Jesus declared to Dame Julian of Norwich: “All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.”
Many listeners will be surprised to discover that hope for universal salvation was widely prevalent in the early Church and is robustly defended today in the writings of theologians across the theological spectrum. In this extraordinary collection, Alvin F. Kimel discusses the works of the 7th century mystic St Isaac the Syrian and 14th century mystic Julian of Norwich, the 19th century writer George MacDonald, Lutheran theologians Robert W. Jenson and Gerhard Forde, evangelical philosopher Thomas Talbott, and Eastern Orthodox theologians Sergius Bulgakov and David Bentley Hart, to name just a few of many. It’s an indispensable resource for anyone interested in understanding the doctrine of universal salvation.
"Al Kimel puts brilliantly the argument for full Christianity that has too rarely been made in the past." (John Milbank, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus of Theology and Religious Studies, University of Nottingham and author of numerous books and essays, including Theology and Social Theory, Being Reconciled, and The Suspended Middle)
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Insurance
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By: John MacArthur
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The Old Testament is one of the most carefully studied books in the world’s history. It is also one of the most misunderstood. This founding text of the world’s three largest religions is also, Erich Fromm argues, an impressive radical humanist text. He sees the stories of mankind’s transition from divided clans to united brotherhood as a tribute to the human power to overcome. Filled with hopeful symbolism, You Shall Be as Gods shows how the Old Testament and its tradition is an inspiring ode to human potential.
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Fascinating new ideas
- By D. Hansen on 11-24-16
By: Erich Fromm
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The Reason for God
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The End of Faith. The God Delusion. God Is Not Great. Letter to a Christian Nation. Best seller lists are filled with doubters. But what happens when you actually doubt your doubts? Timothy Keller, the founding pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City, addresses the frequent doubts that skeptics, and even ardent believers, have about religion.
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Daily readings drawn from every century and every tradition of the Christian faith. Christianity through the ages... Ignatius, C.S. Lewis, John Calvin, Augustine, Catherine of Siena, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther, Polycarp, John Wesley, Karl Barth, and Billy Sunday. These names, and so many others, fill the pages of church history. Yet they remain strangers to most of us. How Great Is Our God will introduce you to Christianity’s most influential thinkers from every century and every tradition—modernized for today’s reader.
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Tedious
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In My Religion, Leo Tolstoy accuses the church of hiding the true meaning of Jesus, which is to be found in the Sermon on the Mount and the call to resist evil. For Tolstoy, it is this command that has been most damaged by ecclesiastical interpretation. Tolstoy had not always been possessed of the religious ideas set forth in My Religion. For 35 years of his life, he was, in the proper acceptation of the word, a nihilist - not a revolutionary socialist but a man who believed in nothing.
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Why Did We Not Read This In Bible College?
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For years, Christians have been asking, "If you died tonight, do you know where you would go?" It turns out that many believers have been giving the wrong answer. It is not heaven. Wright outlines the present confusion about a Christian's future hope and shows how it is deeply intertwined with how we live today. Wright asserts that Christianity's most distinctive idea is bodily resurrection, and provides a magisterial defense for a literal resurrection of Jesus. Wright then explores our expectation of "new heavens and a new earth".
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A valuable yet partial lens for viewing mission
- By Scott Macdonald on 01-16-19
By: N. T. Wright
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The Confessions by Saint Augustine is considered an all-time number one Christian classic. Augustine undertook his greatest piece of writing with the conviction that God wanted him to make this confession. The Confessions is, in fact, an extended poetic, passionate, intimate prayer.
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Reading is by 13 Consecutive Amateurs
- By Horkstow Grange on 01-16-21
By: St. Augustine
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Encounters with Jesus
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What is my purpose in life? What is a good life? Why is there so much wrong with our world? What can I do to help make it right? These are some of the big questions that everyone must answer. And any lasting change in our lives will start with a change to one or more of our answers to these questions. Jesus changed the life of every person he met in the Gospels, through powerful experiences and words that led them to unexpected and transforming answers to their big questions. These conversations can still address our questions and doubts today.
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Very deep
- By Rich Hayami on 07-11-14
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Things Hidden
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- By: Richard Rohr O.F.M.
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excellent and inspirational in the insights
- By Nana on 11-03-22
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The Day the Revolution Began
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In The Day the Revolution Began, N. T. Wright once again challenges commonly held Christian beliefs, as he did in Surprised by Hope. Demonstrating the rigorous intellect and breathtaking knowledge that have long defined his work, Wright argues that Jesus' death on the cross was not only to absolve us of our sins, it was actually the beginning of a revolution commissioning the Christian faithful to a new vocation - a royal priesthood responsible for restoring and reconciling all of God's creation.
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Standard Wright, both the strengths and weaknesses
- By Adam Shields on 12-12-16
By: N. T. Wright
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- B. Rich
- 08-04-24
Accessible and thorough exploration of the history of universal salvation
Well, it took several weeks of listening to finish, but I’m heartily recommend Fr. Kimel’s book! If you’ve ever wondered about Christian universalism, apokatastasis, or the reconciliation of all things, then this is an accessible and exhaustive guide to the history of the idea, the questions and objections often posed, and the thoughtful answers that have been offered in various times and places where the Church has gathered. There’s a LOT of material here that will reward careful study. The appendix with Fr. Kimel’s address given at his son’s funeral is a powerful reminder of real world events where high flying theological rubber meets the road.
The only downside to the Audible is an uneven performance by the reader/narrator. Since the word apokatastasis plays such an important role in the text, it was grating to hear it pronounced hundreds of times with accents on the second and fifth syllables rather than with a single stress on 4th syllable. There are passages from Julian of Norwich that are suddenly read with a strange, singsong inflection and an odd pronunciation that I suspect reflects the orthography of an old (public domain) English printing of her Showings. Finally, a few names could use a little help. It took a while to settle on a pronunciation for (Theodore of) Mopsuestia and (Hans Urs von) Balthasar threw me for a few loops. But these are minor quibbles compared to the great value of Fr. Kimel’s work!
Dig in and savor this beautiful offering ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
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- Frimann
- 10-29-24
Hope after death
God is Love and All will be saved in the end. All shall be well.
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- David Dominguez
- 07-13-24
Challenging & Comforting
This book is a gift and a blessing. Christians need to be challenged to trust God’s eternal love and mercy, and to let go of the vision of eternal torment most of us were taught. I plan to listen to this audio book again!
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- Amazon Customer
- 10-08-23
Finally, a true clarification of the worst heresy of our faith!
Nothing is more disappointing to a Bible student to acknowledge the heroes and mentors and great Bible teachers are hopelessly flawed. They have made great observations of the word of God but ultimately came to the wrong conclusions. May the spirit open your heart to this vital truth. Universal salvation is the plan for all of God’s children.
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- Dan
- 02-05-23
Hope is the thing with feathers - That perches in the soul
This is a well researched and well thought out book. It is both educational and enlightening while still remaining entertaining. Better than all that though is it gives hope. Hope that God is better than we imagine, more loving than we imagine, more healing and reconciling that we have been telling one another.
You don’t have to be churchy or a professor to follow the history or the logic here and for many that have been given a vision of the Heavenly Father as a sadist or a big combat boot in the sky, the case presented here will afford them the chance to love God who loves them too, in fact who loved them first and best. Many of the arguments against faith in todays age are the illogic assertions of people of faith- there are memes about it even lol, but in this volume we find that the popular view of today has not always been the view and traces some of how that came to be.
If you are opposed to faith in universalism (the thought not the denomination) there is a rich meal here to examine why that is so, if you are not opposed to the thought there is a rich meal here to show you are not alone in your thinking. If you have not decided either way, there is a meal yet again showing why some people have accepted or rejected the thought.
If you object to the notion of God based on Christians you have known, here you can set aside what they have said or done and look for yourself to see if there is not a better meal than what has been shown to you, and in fact, why rejecting some beliefs or behaviors actually draws you closer to the truth.
Pull up a chair, taste of this work, I promise you will find nourishment there
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- Anonymous User
- 03-19-23
Very thorough examination of the larger Hope!
Fr. Kimel’s examination of the ancient Christian doctrine of the reconciliation of all things is robust and leaves no stone unturned. He offers a thoughtful discussion of topics as wide ranging as the theology of Julian of Norwich, the salvation of Judas Iscariot, the juxtaposition of free will and universal salvation, the salvation of George Macdonald’s Lillith, the parables of the sheep and the goats and Lazarus and the rich man, the role of the lake of fire, and many other issues. David Bentley Hart’s afterword is excellent. Whether you agree with Fr. Kimel’s conclusions or not, this book cannot be ignored. Highly recommended!
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- Star Foster
- 07-11-24
Soul Satisfying
I feel like my faith has been strengthened. I had been looking for a more forgiving and compassionate vision of God. I will be re-reading this more than once in order to really absorb the concepts!
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