Fairy Tale as Myth/Myth as Fairy Tale
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Jack Zipes
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This audiobook explores the historical rise of the literary fairy tale as a genre in the late 17th century. In his examinations of key classical fairy tales, Zipes traces their unique metamorphoses in history with stunning discoveries that reveal their ideological relationships to domination and oppression. Tales such as Beauty and the Beast, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and Rumplestiltskin have become part of our everyday culture and shapers of our identities.
In this lively work, Jack Zipes explores the historical rise of the literary fairy tale as a genre in the late 17th century and examines the ideological relationship of classic fairy tales to domination and oppression in Western society. The fairy tale received its most mythic articulation in America. Consequently Zipes sees Walt Disney's Snow White as an expression of American male individualism, film and literary interpretations of L. Frank Baum's The Wizard of Oz as critiques of American myths, and Robert Bly's Iron John as a misunderstanding of folklore and traditional fairy tales. This book will change forever the way we look at the fairy tales of our youth.
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For all of India's myths, its sea of stories and moral epics, Indian history remains a curiously unpeopled place. In Incarnations, Sunil Khilnani fills that space, recapturing the human dimension of how the world's largest democracy came to be. His trenchant portraits of emperors, warriors, philosophers, film stars, and corporate titans - some famous, some unjustly forgotten - bring feeling, wry humor, and uncommon insight to dilemmas that extend from ancient times to our own.
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Great listen, the author is biased
- By Anonymous User on 02-15-19
By: Sunil Khilnani
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The Alphabet Versus the Goddess
- The Conflict Between Word and Image
- By: Leonard Shlain
- Narrated by: Norman Dietz
- Length: 24 hrs and 5 mins
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Who changed the sex of God? This groundbreaking book proposes that the rise of alphabetic literacy reconfigured the human brain and brought about profound changes in history, religion, and gender relations. Making remarkable connections across brain function, myth, and anthropology, Dr. Shlain shows why pre-literate cultures were principally informed by holistic, right-brain modes that venerated the Goddess, images, and feminine values.
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Can't Even Get Started
- By Marie on 02-08-19
By: Leonard Shlain
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The Art of the Novel
- By: Milan Kundera, Linda Asher - translator
- Narrated by: Graeme Malcolm
- Length: 4 hrs and 31 mins
- Unabridged
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Kundera brilliantly examines the work of such important and diverse figures as Rabelais, Cervantes, Sterne, Diderot, Flaubert, Tolstoy, and Musil. He is especially penetrating on Hermann Broch, and his exploration of the world of Kafka's novels vividly reveals the comic terror of Kafka's bureaucratized universe. Kundera's discussion of his own work includes his views on the role of historical events in fiction, the meaning of action, and the creation of character in the postpsychological novel.
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Informative and Inspiring
- By Mo on 11-27-21
By: Milan Kundera, and others
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Jung
- A Very Short Introduction
- By: Anthony Stevens
- Narrated by: Tim Pigott-Smith
- Length: 3 hrs and 52 mins
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Anthony Stevens argues that Jung's visionary powers and profound spirituality have helped many to find an alternative set of values to the arid materialism prevailing Western society.
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Very nice - will not be disappointed
- By Edgar on 12-15-05
By: Anthony Stevens
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Six Memos for the Next Millennium
- By: Italo Calvino, Geoffrey Brock - translator
- Narrated by: Edoardo Ballerini
- Length: 3 hrs and 34 mins
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At the time of his death, Italo Calvino was at work on six lectures setting forth the qualities in writing he most valued and which he believed would define literature in the century to come. Here, in Six Memos for the Next Millennium, are the five lectures he completed, forming not only a stirring defense of literature but also an indispensable guide to the writings of Calvino himself. He devotes one "memo" each to the concepts of lightness, quickness, exactitude, visibility, and multiplicity.
By: Italo Calvino, and others
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C. S. Lewis - A Life
- Eccentric Genius, Reluctant Prophet
- By: Alister E. McGrath
- Narrated by: Robin Sachs
- Length: 13 hrs and 57 mins
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In honor of the 50th anniversary of C. S. Lewis' death, celebrated Oxford don Dr. Alister McGrath presents us with a compelling and definitive portrait of the life of C. S. Lewis, the author of the well-known Narnia series. For more than half a century, C. S. Lewis’ Narnia series has captured the imaginations of millions. In C. S. Lewis - A Life, Dr. Alister McGrath recounts the unlikely path of this Oxford don, who spent his days teaching English literature to the brightest students in the world and his spare time writing.
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Awakening my curiosity and desire to read more!
- By Pearl Glacier on 03-13-13
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Women & Power
- A Manifesto
- By: Mary Beard
- Narrated by: Mary Beard
- Length: 1 hr and 35 mins
- Unabridged
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At long last, Mary Beard addresses in one brave book the misogynists and trolls who mercilessly attack and demean women the world over, including, very often, Mary herself. In Women & Power, she traces the origins of this misogyny to its ancient roots, examining the pitfalls of gender and the ways that history has mistreated strong women since time immemorial.
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Short and fabulous
- By André C. on 03-13-20
By: Mary Beard
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William Blake vs the World
- By: John Higgs
- Narrated by: John Higgs
- Length: 11 hrs and 12 mins
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A wild and unexpected journey through culture, science, philosophy, and religion to better understand the mercurial genius of William Blake.
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Best book ever
- By idamae on 11-04-22
By: John Higgs
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Six Walks in the Fictional Woods
- By: Umberto Eco
- Narrated by: Nick Sullivan
- Length: 5 hrs and 4 mins
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In this exhilarating book, we accompany Umberto Eco as he explores the intricacies of fictional form and method. Using examples ranging from fairy tales and Flaubert, Poe and Mickey Spillane, Eco draws us in by means of a novelist's techniques, making us his collaborators in the creation of his text and in the investigation of some of fiction's most basic mechanisms.
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big ideas presented simply
- By Ashton on 01-31-14
By: Umberto Eco
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At the Existentialist Café
- Freedom, Being, and Apricot Cocktails
- By: Sarah Bakewell
- Narrated by: Antonia Beamish
- Length: 14 hrs and 39 mins
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Paris, 1933: Three contemporaries meet over apricot cocktails at the Bec-de-Gaz bar on the rue Montparnasse. They are the young Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir, and longtime friend Raymond Aron, a fellow philosopher who raves to them about a new conceptual framework from Berlin called phenomenology. "You see," he says, "if you are a phenomenologist, you can talk about this cocktail and make philosophy out of it!"
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Consistent look at incoherent philosophy
- By Gary on 06-19-16
By: Sarah Bakewell
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Asian Journals
- India and Japan (The Collected Works of Joseph Campbell)
- By: Joseph Campbell
- Narrated by: Fred Stella
- Length: 26 hrs and 56 mins
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At the beginning of his career, Joseph Campbell developed a lasting fascination with the cultures of the Far East, and explorations of Buddhist and Hindu philosophy later became recurring motifs in his vast body of work. However, Campbell had to wait until middle age to visit the lands that inspired him so deeply. In 1954, he took a sabbatical from his teaching position and embarked on a year-long voyage through India, Thailand, Cambodia, Burma, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and finally Japan.
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What a journey!
- By Anonymous User on 08-11-18
By: Joseph Campbell
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- Thomas L. Packer
- 02-02-17
Worst audiobook in my library
Neither the author nor the narrator are very good. Ridiculously abstract academic language, poor pronunciation of French names and words, unsubstantiated theories of dark origins of fairy tales.
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- todd
- 01-07-22
Really wanted to like
The idea behind this book and one that introduced me to the author sounded fascinating. Unfortunately, there's nothing at all here of any substance; the author throws some currently popular fad words into his theories of what was happening in the world - patriarchy, democracy, etc. - but, it more seems like he starts with some current fad and you're meant to think, "Hey, that's something I never knew was happening back then!"
That's about the extent of the scholarship here. You won't learn anything beyond some opinion that likely wasn't true. There are few mentions of those who authored or influenced fairy tale/myth and nothing given of substance, other than odd complaints about Walt Disney not giving credit to his employees or signing his name as he did. The connection to the stories and societies is as loose as 'there's a king in the story, therefore patriarcy and the fight for democracy;" nothing else given to support these things, even if we grant they 'could' be true (and, I think that's a stretch in most places here), there's nothing interesting about his claims. It seems like some of the claims could be interesting IF the author bothered to expand beyond his opinion and teach us about why he thinks as he does; share the connection to the claim and the author, to political dissidents and changing themes in society with examples and proof.
He isn't so bothered.
Usually I find with books from academics that I can find nuggets of interesting ideas or takes, even if it's painful to make it past all of the mandatory hip words they feel they need to throw into their lectures to be hip and relate to the kids, but with this title there really is nothing of substance. There are words and theories. The writing far too often seems like filler and never delivers. There was one point the author lists something like bulletpointed 9 items that he felt showed some sort of interesting subplot or concept the fairytale included where 1/3 just sounded like a filler sentence with a hip current word that the people of the time no doubt were not concerned with, and the other 2/3 were just pure speculation with nothing of substance to back up his theories (though I also don't recall anything particularly interesting).
Maybe there is something of substance and interesting in his actual work, but I don't believe that to be true and you won't find it here. I think this is closer to the current state of academia which far too often involves starting with a conclusion you want to be true, usually something that fits a current talking point with very little to do with the world of the past, and then finding the loose facts to support your pre-determined conclusion. As I've tried to share above, the 'facts' very often are extremely weak - to the extent a story about politics therefore means a struggle "for democracy."
The idea has a chance to be interesting. I'm sure there is plenty about Walt Disney and the details of some of the fairy tales he chose. What you get here is more of a student who has done no research just making claims about how he must have been a patriarch for how his signature is on things and his employees are not. The Wizard of Oz likewise has so much potential, between what many, many others have noted is the obvious ties to real world people and events. You get none of that in this title, but instead just get told over and over again how it's an American tale in some way that in the author's mind shows some 'ideal' world that the USA he's disappointed never becomes. You're told that is disappointing over and over again in typical filler, with hints there is a commentary on the ideal world having some managed political structure, but like everything else in the book... it just comes off as a theory and what the author wants to be true (because the actors and those involved in the movie I guess were, according to the author, again, no proof or actual people given).
In short, find another book. This one I can't even share is trying all that hard to be a hip opinion piece; it's more trying to give the appearance of being such without doing any work, probably right in line with the quality of the students who take his classes and don't read any of the mandatory titles.
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