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George Wilson
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Joe Haldeman
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War in the 21st century is fought by "soldierboys". Remote-controlled mechanical monsters, they are run by human soldiers who hard-wire their brains together to form each unit. Julian is one of these dedicated soldiers, until he inadvertently kills a young boy. Now he struggles to understand how this has changed his mind.
Forever Peace is a riveting portrayal of the effects of collective consciousness, and it offers some tantalizing revelations. Narrator George Wilson's skillful performance weaves together the elements of futuristic technology with the drama of a trained soldier reconciling basic human needs.
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For Oxford student Kivrin, traveling back to the 14th century is more than the culmination of her studies - it's the chance for a wonderful adventure. For Dunworthy, her mentor, it is cause for intense worry about the thousands of things that could go wrong.
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Timely, beautiful, terrible and haunting
- By mudcelt on 11-02-09
By: Connie Willis
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Marsbound
- By: Joe Haldeman
- Narrated by: Liza Kaplan
- Length: 8 hrs and 25 mins
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Young Carmen Dula and her family are about to embark on the adventure of a lifetime - they're going to Mars. Once on the Red Planet, however, Carmen realizes things are not so different from Earth. There are chores to do, lessons to learn, and oppressive authority figures to rebel against.
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Meh.
- By Wes Parker on 03-19-09
By: Joe Haldeman
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The Snow Queen
- By: Joan D. Vinge
- Narrated by: Ellen Archer
- Length: 20 hrs and 41 mins
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The imperious Winter colonists have ruled the planet Tiamat for 150 years, deriving wealth from the slaughter of the sea mers. But soon the galactic stargate will close, isolating Tiamat, and the 150-year reign of the Summer primitives will begin. All is not lost if Arienrhod, the ageless, corrupt Snow Queen, can destroy destiny with an act of genocide. Arienrhod is not without competition as Moon, a young Summer-tribe sibyl, and the nemesis of the Snow Queen, battles to break a conspiracy that spans space.
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A magnificent performance of an old favorite
- By Nancy on 07-31-12
By: Joan D. Vinge
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A Fire Upon the Deep
- By: Vernor Vinge
- Narrated by: Peter Larkin
- Length: 21 hrs and 37 mins
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A Fire Upon the Deep is the big, breakout book that fulfills the promise of Vinge's career to date: a gripping tale of galactic war told on a cosmic scale. Thousands of years hence, many races inhabit a universe where a mind's potential is determined by its location in space, from superintelligent entities in the Transcend, to the limited minds of the Unthinking Depths, where only simple creatures and technology can function.
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What a wild, wacky, awesome book!
- By Noah Smith on 06-20-10
By: Vernor Vinge
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Sundiver
- The Uplift Saga, Book 1
- By: David Brin
- Narrated by: George Wilson
- Length: 12 hrs and 32 mins
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For nearly a billion years, every known sentient species in the universe has been the result of genetic and cultural guidance - or "uplifting" - by a previously uplifted patron race. Then humans are discovered. Having already uplifted chimps and dolphins, humanity clearly qualifies as an intelligent species, but did they actually evolve their own intelligence, or did some mysterious patron race begin the process, then suddenly abandon Earth?
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good, but flawed
- By J Michael on 04-16-08
By: David Brin
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Downbelow Station
- By: C. J. Cherryh
- Narrated by: Brian Troxell
- Length: 19 hrs and 13 mins
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Pell's Station, orbiting the alien world simply called Downbelow, had always managed to remain neutral in the ever escalating conflict between The Company, whose fleets from Earth had colonized space, and its increasingly independent and rebellious colony worlds. But Pell's location - - on the outer edge of Earth's defensive perimeter - makes her the focal point in the titanic battle of colony worlds fighting for independence.
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Narrator kills that book
- By K. Krieger on 07-11-12
By: C. J. Cherryh
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The Yiddish Policemen's Union
- A Novel
- By: Michael Chabon
- Narrated by: Peter Riegert
- Length: 12 hrs and 37 mins
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For 60 years Jewish refugees and their descendants have prospered in the federal district of Sitka, a temporary safe haven created in the wake of the Holocaust and the shocking 1948 collapse of the fledgling state of Israel. The Jews of the Sitka District have created their own little world in the Alaskan panhandle, a vibrant and complex frontier city that moves to the music of Yiddish. But now the district is set to revert to Alaskan control, and their dream is coming to an end.
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Didn't finish...
- By Ann E O'Connor on 10-16-17
By: Michael Chabon
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To Your Scattered Bodies Go, Riverworld Saga, Book 1
- By: Philip José Farmer
- Narrated by: Paul Hecht
- Length: 7 hrs and 42 mins
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Along with a remarkable group of compatriots, including Alice Liddell Hargreaves (the Victorian girl who was the inspiration for Alice in Wonderland), an English-speaking Neanderthal, a WWII Holocaust survivor, and a wise extraterrestrial, Burton sets sail on the magnificent river. His mission: to confront humankind's mysterious benefactors, and learn the true purpose—innocent or evil—of the Riverworld....
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Great concept, dated writing.
- By Battaglia on 08-04-11
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- Wayne R. Brownell
- 05-03-22
It's an interesting departure from forever war.
This is not a sequel from the forever war. In this book the author Look into what it is to be human.
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- Warren
- 04-24-24
Great World Building
Fantastic blend of Science Fiction and human experience. I will be listening the next book.
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- SciFi Kindle
- 04-03-15
'Walk a mile in their shoes' Syndrome
This book is a spiritual, if not narrative, sequel to Haldeman’s 1975 “Forever War”. Both novels won the Hugo & Nebula, and explore the theme of war’s futility, although from different perspectives and in separate story-worlds. Readers expecting a continuation of Forever War’s interstellar conflict or relativistic time dilation effects, will see that instead this story features a strictly terrestrial struggle between the wealthy nations, fueled by effortless nano-factory produced plenty, and the struggling excluded masses. The earlier novel, written in the immediate post-Vietnam days of an antagonistic welcome for returning veterans, further exaggerated the alienation of the protagonist with a fish-out-of-water situation that placed the character hopelessly out of touch with his own century. Here, in the 1998 novel, one senseless war is supplanted by an invisible one to end all wars, as the protagonist discovers a pacification treatment that involves sharing one of the military’s tightest-held tools with all of humanity to bring individuals together into a community incapable of violence outside of self-defense. Haldeman uses SF technology as vehicle to explore the age-old thought that ‘if we only walked in our enemies shoes for a day’. At the same time, the greatest opponent to this peace movement is one of religious zealots who inexplicably seem to want death and destruction for its own sake. I felt that not enough insight was given to their internal motivation, even when the narrative was told in first person perspective of one these characters. This left them a bit too archetypical and cartoon-evil for me. On the human-scale drama of this story, there is a compelling relationship that is shown conquering the challenges of race, age, military-civilian differences, then ‘jacked’ vs natural minds until it is thoroughly proven to be unshakable. There are also some notable thriller scenes and a number of high-tech asymmetric warfare scenes as well. Absent, sadly, are any aliens or Space Opera tropes or any references to advanced climate change expected over the coming century (CliFi).
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- Charleston Jeeper
- 05-30-24
Great reading. Poor storytelling.
No complaints with the narration. I actually didn't catch a single mispronounced word. The story itself, however, is just... Lackluster. I've read better world building in high school creative writing classes.
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- Anthony
- 03-28-19
Relationship to the First Book is Confusing
I'm not sure what the relationship with "Forever War," is. Another view of human and cultural evolution? It is an interesting story, but sometimes the point of view of who was narrating was awkward.
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- Amazon Customer
- 02-14-24
Not a sequel!
Don’t go into this thinking it’s a sequel. It most likely takes place in the same universe. Loved the story though. A lot of hard topics, but worth the read.
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- Lisa White
- 10-05-15
A good and imaginative story that ends too quickly
I liked this book a lot but for me it seemed to end pretty abruptly. I found myself wondering, with 30 minutes to go, how it could be possible to pull it all together. It does, but abruptly.
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- Michael G Kurilla
- 11-07-17
Peace means different things to people
Joe Haldeman's Forever Peace is not a temporal follow-on the his earlier Forever War. Rather, this tale takes place entirely on Earth in the mid-20th century. Society has evolved to a strange, but hauntingly familiar caricature of present times. Technology has advanced such that material wants have largely disappeared and people only work if desired. A short military service is mandatory, but is mostly a human operated drone program and the US seems to be at perpetual war with insurgents around the globe. Into this mix, a part time soldier who is also a budding physicist is engaged to stop a large scale experiment going on at Jupiter that has the potential to initiate the end of the universe, but there are other forces intent on bringing this about.
The sci-fi elements are surprisingly prescient in terms of today's developments. Human operated drones, in this case soldier equivalent robots dominate the military. Clearly, all the inherent issues with asymmetric warfare are evident. At the same, there are psych issues that develop with the "jacked in" state resulting from a near hive mind state the soldiers are constantly exposed to. "Nanoforges" have off-loaded human labor requirements for mass production resulting in the vast majority of society with nothing to do. As such, there is 1984 quality without an overbearing government footprint. Finally, Haldeman inserts religious fervor of an "immanentizing the eschaton" aspect to an end of days as well race relations issues that have never quite been addressed.
The narration is quite well done with a good range of voices and excellent character discrimination. Pacing and tone are well suited to the plot.
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- Jerry A. Ryder
- 12-04-18
sub-par for the author.
not bad intellectually. Two much sex!! Skipped half of the book. Would not recommend this.
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- Larry
- 09-16-17
Perspective, ways of understanding one's world.
I have always preferred hard SF. Speculative, or Science Fiction. By hard S soft I mean solid, or hard science vs a speculative that magic, or miraculous;having mo rational basis as an explanation.
The pivot of this story has no solid science behind it yet all the major points are believable,even rational.
1.Robot like automatons remotely manipulated by people in remote controlling vertual environments.
The danger faced is a rebooting of the cosmoc"Big Bang. " A rebooting replaces our current universe with a new one without a sound explain of how or what would be doing that. Don't let that keep you away from the story, it's well done, and told.
Not the end of the human world, but of everything of the universe.
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