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Forgery and Counterforgery
- The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics
- Narrated by: Noah Michael Levine
- Length: 25 hrs and 27 mins
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"Arguably the most distinctive feature of the early Christian literature," writes Bart Ehrman, "is the degree to which it was forged." The Homilies and Recognitions of Clement; Paul's letters to and from Seneca; Gospels by Peter, Thomas, and Philip; Jesus' correspondence with Abgar, letters by Peter and Paul in the New Testament - all forgeries. To cite just a few examples.
Forgery and Counterforgery is the first comprehensive study of early Christian pseudepigrapha ever produced in English. In it, Ehrman argues that ancient critics - pagan, Jewish, and Christian - understood false authorial claims to be a form of literary deceit, and thus forgeries. Ehrman considers the extent of the phenomenon, the "intention" and motivations of ancient Greek, Roman, and Jewish forgers, and reactions to their work once detected. He also assesses the criteria ancient critics applied to expose forgeries and the techniques forgers used to avoid detection.
With the wider practices of the ancient world as backdrop, Ehrman then focuses on early Christian polemics, as various Christian authors forged documents in order to lend their ideas a veneer of authority in literary battles waged with pagans, Jews, and, most importantly, with one another in internecine disputes over doctrine and practice. In some instances a forger directed his work against views found in another forgery, creating thereby a "counter-forgery." Ehrman's evaluation of polemical forgeries starts with those of the New Testament (nearly half of whose books make a false authorial claim) up through the Pseudo-Ignatian epistles and the Apostolic Constitutions at the end of the fourth century.
Shining light on an important but overlooked feature of the early Christian world, Forgery and Counterforgery explores the possible motivations of the deceivers who produced these writings, situating their practice within ancient Christian discourses on lying and deceit.
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Winner of the John W. Kluge Prize for Lifetime Achievement in the Human Sciences, Jaroslav Pelikan is Professor Emeritus of history at Yale University and past president of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. This examination of the history of the Bible reflects half a century of study and research by the author. In Whose Bible Is It?, Pelikan traces the transformation of the Bible from its earliest oral traditions to its modern forms.
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Too Verbose Not Enough "Big Picture" Bible History
- By Stephen on 07-05-11
By: Jaroslav Pelikan
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Decoding Nicea
- Constantine Changed Christianity and Christianity Changed the World
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- Narrated by: Alan Sisto
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The Council of Nicea was not clerics in a dark and ornate hall. It was brawls in churchyards; it was emperors and governors fighting to save the empire; it was political intrigue as the governments of church and state blended into a volatile stew. It was the way a fringe group of peace-loving communal worshipers of a crucified Palestinian prophet conquered the Roman Empire.
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Who mixes fact with fiction?
- By 3allvalve on 12-28-17
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How God Became God
- What Scholars Are Really Saying About God and the Bible
- By: Richard M. Smoley
- Narrated by: Richard M. Smoley
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This epic, thrilling journey through Bible scholarship and ancient religion shows how much of Scripture is historically false - yet the ancient writings also resound with theologies that crisscrossed the primeval world and that direct us today toward a deep, authentic inner experience of the truly sacred.
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Just Okay.
- By Thom on 10-28-21
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More Than a Carpenter
- By: Josh D. McDowell
- Narrated by: Sean McDowell
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The inspirational classic, More than a Carpenter, is now updated for a new generation of seekers with a fresh look, revised material, and a new chapter that addresses questions commonly raised today. Former skeptic Josh McDowell is now joined by his son Sean as they examine the evidence about Jesus. Is he really the Lord he claimed to be? How can we know for sure? More than a Carpenter offers arguments for faith from a skeptic turned believer.
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A great book but error in the audio
- By Zion Serves on 06-27-17
By: Josh D. McDowell
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Anti-Judaism
- The Western Tradition
- By: David Nirenberg
- Narrated by: Robert Blumenfeld
- Length: 17 hrs and 25 mins
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This incisive history upends the complacency that confines anti-Judaism to the ideological extremes in the Western tradition. With deep learning and elegance, David Nirenberg shows how foundational anti-Judaism is to the history of the West. Questions of how we are Jewish and, more critically, how and why we are not have been churning within the Western imagination throughout its history. Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans; Christians and Muslims of every period; even the secularists of modernity have used Judaism in constructing their visions of the world.
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Great Book: Terrible Narrator
- By LB on 12-29-16
By: David Nirenberg
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Jesus on Trial
- A Lawyer Affirms the Truth of the Gospel
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- Narrated by: Walter Dixon
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In Jesus on Trial, New York Times bestselling author David Limbaugh applies his lifetime of legal experience to a unique new undertaking: making a case for the gospels as hard evidence of the life and work of Jesus Christ. Limbaugh, a practicing attorney and former professor of law, approaches the canonical gospels with the same level of scrutiny he would apply to any legal document and asks all the necessary questions about the story of Jesus....
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What a disappointment
- By JB on 10-07-14
By: David Limbaugh
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Scripture and the Authority of God
- How to Read the Bible Today
- By: N. T. Wright
- Narrated by: James Adams
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In this revised and expanded edition of The Last Word, Wright, Bishop of Durham, one of the preeminent Bible scholars of our day and author of such beloved works as After You Believe and Simply Christian, gives new life to the old, tattered doctrine of the authority of Scripture, delivering a fresh, helpful, and concise statement on the current battles for the Bible and restoring Scripture as a place to find God's voice.
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Takes scripture very seriously
- By Adam Shields on 05-31-11
By: N. T. Wright
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The Mormon Mirage
- A Former Member Looks at the Mormon Church Today
- By: Latayne C. Scott
- Narrated by: Tamara Marston
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Three decades after leaving the Mormon faith, Latayne Colvett Scott looks back to her original journey out of Mormonism and the reasons why she left. Revised and updated, this third edition of The Mormon Mirage presents both a fascinating inside look at Mormonism and new and formidable evidence against its claims and teachings.
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Keep away from it. Hate-Literature.
- By Amazon Customer on 04-13-12
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James, the Brother of Jesus
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- By: Robert Eisenman
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
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James was a vegetarian, wore only linen clothing, bathed daily at dawn in cold water, and was a life-long Nazirite. In this profound and provocative work of scholarly detection, eminent biblical scholar Robert Eisenman introduces a startling theory about the identity of James - the brother of Jesus - who was almost entirely marginalized in the New Testament.
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Regretable. Hard to follow. Repetitive.
- By Jimi on 08-18-17
By: Robert Eisenman
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The Apocryphal Gospels
- The History of the New Testament Apocrypha Not Included in the Bible
- By: Charles River Editors, Gustavo Vazquez-Lozano
- Narrated by: Mark Norman
- Length: 2 hrs and 5 mins
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Between 50 and 90 CE, the various writings that comprise the New Testament were written, including the four Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, the Epistles of Paul, and other letters to more general communities of the early Church. But what is recognized as the 26 books of the New Testament today, in literally hundreds of English translations, actually took several more centuries to be determined as "canonical" by the Church.
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Very Interesting information.
- By KP on 12-11-16
By: Charles River Editors, and others
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The Misunderstood Jew
- The Church and the Scandal of the Jewish Jesus
- By: Amy Jill Levine
- Narrated by: Donna Postel
- Length: 11 hrs and 7 mins
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In The Misunderstood Jew, scholar Amy-Jill Levine helps Christians and Jews understand the "Jewishness" of Jesus so that their appreciation of him deepens and a greater interfaith dialogue can take place. Levine's humor and informed truth - telling provokes honest conversation and debate about how Christians and Jews should understand Jesus, the New Testament, and each other.
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Courageous
- By Tad Davis on 07-27-17
By: Amy Jill Levine
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Creating Christ
- How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity
- By: James S. Valliant, C. W. Fahy
- Narrated by: Chris MacDonnell
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This explosive work of history unearths clues that finally demonstrate the truth about one of the world's great religions: that it was born out of the conflict between the Romans and messianic Jews who fought a bitter war with each other during the first century. The Romans employed a tactic they routinely used to conquer and absorb other nations: they grafted their imperial rule onto the religion of the conquered.
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life is one big lie
- By Anonymous User on 12-25-19
By: James S. Valliant, and others
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- John F
- 04-03-23
Ver Poor reading
The Narrator not only mispronounces certain words but rushes the narration as if he is in a hurry. This is a very distracting approach and takes away from the content of the book.
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- Douglas
- 02-25-17
Hard Hitter
Very convincing. Very thorough as always.
Narrator is pretty weak. It takes a while to get past his inflection. He has some embarrassing pronunciation mistakes. Clearly does not know who Joseph of Arimathea is or Josephus.
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- Greg Camp
- 09-04-23
Wish the narrator were as good as the text
This is a book worth anyone's time who is interested in the diversity of Christian thought in the early centuries of the common era.
I wish that the narrator were up to the task. As things stand, there may be a language that he can pronounce correctly, but it is not to be found in this book.
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- Claire Weber
- 03-26-21
Enjoyable listen except for pronunciation issues
The performance is good except many of the names are mispronounced. The mispronunciations are frequent enough and extreme enough that it regularly interfered with my enjoyment of the book and occasionally interfered with comprehension. Such as the mispronunciation of the name of the prophet Elisha as "Alicia", though Elijah is pronounced correctly.
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- ALM
- 04-13-16
Interesting book, poorly narrated
Book interesting, but narration choppy with odd pronunciations ("Marcion" as "Martian" is funniest); be warned.
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- thutch9299
- 08-26-15
Very informative!
I really enjoyed the material. Thorough and balanced treatment of the material. Narrator had a very pleasant voice.
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- Sharon G
- 08-09-17
Needs to learn to pronounce big words
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It's an interesting read on early forgeries and the attitudes to them
What three words best describe Noah Michael Levine’s performance?
A scholarly work like this needs a reader who can actually correctly pronounce big words. It was jarring to hear something and to have to think about what word was meant. I thought maybe it was me until I went online to check the pronunciation of some. And even every day words could be wrong. Entrance from context meaning to bewitch was pronounced as if it meant entry way. Someone who reads professionally should know, even if they get the vowels wrong, that when a noun and a verb look alike, the stress will go on the first syllable for the noun and the second for the verb. His style wasn't bad but he was the wrong pick for this work.
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- Josh
- 07-13-16
Good content, poor reading
The readers cadence is odd, and his inflection flat. Worse, he mispronounces multiple words so poorly that it took multiple times hearing them before I realized what he was saying (example, his pronunciation of 'Thessalonians' is atrocious).
The readers performance seriously damages my enjoyment of this work.
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- Ross Elder
- 07-02-20
Exhaustive in its detail and research
After spending years just reading highlights regarding the sometimes forged writings of the early Christian era, I decided to delve into this actual study of the subject. If this is a topic that interests you, the depth of the detail and research will definitely satisfy your need for "the whole story."
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- C. G. Sanders
- 06-28-23
Engaging and informative
A lot of people seem to complain that this isn’t more entertaining and read with perfect pronunciation on all of the obscure Greek and Latin names. It’s very good!
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