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Just a touch here and a tweak there....
MacKinlay Kantor, Pulitzer Prize-winning author and master storyteller, shows us how the South could have won the Civil War, how two small shifts in history (as we know it) in the summer of 1863 could have turned the tide for the Confederacy. What would have happened: to the Union, to Abraham Lincoln, to the people of the North and South, to the world?
If the South Had Won the Civil War originally appeared in Look Magazine nearly half a century ago. It immediately inspired a deluge of letters and telegrams from astonished readers and became an American classic overnight. Published in book form soon after, Kantor's masterpiece has been unavailable for a decade. Now, this much-requested classic is once again available for a new generation of listeners.
It all begins on that fateful afternoon of Tuesday, May 12, 1863, when a deplorable equestrian accident claims the life of General Ulysses S. Grant....
©1960 MacKinlay Kantor; Renewed copyright 1988 by The Estate of MacKinlay Kantor; "An Historical Inversion" copyright 1967 by MacKinlay Kantor; Renewed copyright 1995 by The Estate of MacKinlay Kantor; Introduction copyright 2001 by Harry N. Turtledove (P)2019 TantorListeners also enjoyed...
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The Thin Light of Freedom
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At the crux of America's history stand two astounding events: the immediate and complete destruction of the most powerful system of slavery in the modern world, followed by a political reconstruction in which new constitutions established the fundamental rights of citizens for formerly enslaved people. Few people living in 1860 would have dared imagine either event, and yet, in retrospect, both seem to have been inevitable. In a beautifully crafted narrative, Edward L. Ayers restores the drama of the unexpected to the history of the Civil War.
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great history
- By Linda Sisco on 11-30-17
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Far beyond the scope of the battle
- By A. McDonald on 01-26-04
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As the United States marks the 150th anniversary of our defining national drama, 1861 presents a gripping and original account of how the Civil War began. 1861 is an epic of courage and heroism beyond the battlefields. Early in that fateful year, a second American revolution unfolded, inspiring a new generation to reject their parents' faith in compromise and appeasement, to do the unthinkable in the name of an ideal.
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Not what I expected
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1864
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At the beginning of 1864, the Civil War was far from won; terrible and bloody Union setbacks and casualties lay ahead. Abraham Lincoln was facing a re-election battle as some northern Democrats were ready to start peace talks that could leave the Confederacy a separate slaveholding American nation and as his secretary of the treasury, Salmon P. Chase, challenged him for the Republican nomination. But by the end of the year, the war's end was in sight, and slavery was on the verge of extinction.
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A masterful and necessary book!
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Lee
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Readable
- By Rodney on 08-16-17
By: Clifford Dowdey
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William Tecumseh Sherman
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General Sherman's 1864 burning of Atlanta solidified his legacy as a ruthless leader. Yet Sherman proved far more complex than his legendary military tactics reveal. James Lee McDonough offers fresh insight into a man tormented by the fear that history would pass him by, who was plagued by personal debts, and who lived much of his life separated from his family.
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Very Fair and Balanced View of Sherman
- By Nostromo on 12-02-16
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Lincoln and the Fight for Peace
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As the tide of the Civil War turned in the spring of 1865, Abraham Lincoln took a dangerous two-week trip to visit the troops on the front lines accompanied by his young son, seeing combat up close, meeting liberated slaves in the ruins of Richmond, and comforting wounded Union and Confederate soldiers.
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Gets a little repetitive.
- By John on 03-06-22
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The New York Times: Disunion
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A major new collection of modern commentary - from scholars, historians, and Civil War buffs - on the significant events of the Civil War, culled from The New York Times' popular Disunion online journal.
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Excellent audiobook! Love this format!
- By BVerité on 03-17-15
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From the best-selling author of Assassination Vacation and Unfamiliar Fishes, a humorous account of the Revolutionary War hero Marquis de Lafayette - the one Frenchman we could all agree on - and an insightful portrait of a nation's idealism and its reality. Lafayette in the Somewhat United States is a humorous and insightful portrait of the famed Frenchman, the impact he had on our young country, and his ongoing relationship with instrumental Americans of the time.
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- Boyd L
- 05-14-21
Fun read
I have been reading alternate history for a long time. This was right up there.
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- Michael c Hall
- 08-28-23
Got lazy at the end
Good over all story.
But at the end got sloppy and ran with current US history as if the civil war was won by the north.
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- Zachary Kaplan
- 04-09-21
A tale that paved the way for alternate history...
This is one of the earliest entries into the genre of alternate history, and helped to serve as an inspiration for many writers that came after; not least of which was Harry Turtledove himself. That said, don't expect high levels of detail concerning how this timeline differs from our own. Basically, the Confederacy secedes from the Union, Texas secedes from the Confederacy, and all three work as amiable partners in every global conflict that follows before finally joining together again. Not the genre's best entry, but worth one listen at least.
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- Adam Chornesky
- 01-16-23
tantalizing conjecture
on the one hand, slavery, a necessity of all past civilizations, the mainstay of the American South finds new life in this saga of what would have happened if the South had won the Civil War. Because of two key events: the death of General Ulysses Grant, and the defeat of the Union forces in Washington DC. Thank God, this never happened.
Why is slavery no longer in vogue? The Industrial Revolution is one reason. Why employ slaves to do dangerous and hard labor when machines can do it much more efficiently and with much fewer lost lives?
The endgame of the book: the South moves it's Capitol to Washington DC, and the North moves its Capitol to Ohio! They coexist.
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- brian
- 04-01-19
Awesome that this book is now in audio format.
I hope this book influences alternate history authors on and off line in the years to come. One of the first alternate history books many have read, no doubt. Shame it wasn't expanded on morein several areas, who some other Presidents of the US and CS were, and so on. Narration leaves a lot to be desired, however. Still, one of the best.
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- MM
- 06-02-21
A must listen!
Yes, a must listen. This is an incredibly well written story, narrated by a pro whose style, inflection and obvious grasp of the subject matter only enhances the story. For Civil War buffs and newcomers alike.
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- SA Bick
- 12-19-19
Where is the rest of it?
Buyer beware, this audio book is only about 2 hours long. Hardly worth it in my opinion.
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- Bill
- 01-21-23
One needs an advanced degree...
Even though this is a 2 hour book, I struggled to finish it! I am not a history scholar, and as such, this book is incredibly difficult to follow! In my opinion, this book is simply a two plus hour opportunity to string together words that (in the context of this book) have little relationship to the words on either side of any particular word!
I considered purchasing the book, Andersonville, authored by this book writer. And while Andersonville won a Pulitzer, the only way I can see buying another book by MacKinlay Kantor would be if I hadn't slept for several days in a row and needed a non-pharmaceutical alternative for sleep.
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- JP B.
- 09-30-21
garbage and waste of money
2 hours of my life I want back- I love historical fiction but this one was lacking in so many ways and just moved through the 100 years or so it covers way too fast.
save your money, read something like guns of the south if you are looking for a unique historical fiction
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