Patience with God
Faith for People Who Don't Like Religion (or Atheism)
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Frank Schaeffer
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Frank Schaeffer has a problem with Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett, and the rest of the New Atheists—the self-anointed “Brights”. He also has a problem with the Rick Warrens and Tim LaHayes of the world—the religious fundamentalists. The problem is that he doesn’t see much of a difference between the two camps. As Schaeffer puts it, they “often share the same fallacy: truth claims that reek of false certainties. I believe that there is an alternative that actually matches the way life is lived rather than how we usually talk about belief.”
Sparing no one and nothing, including himself and his fiery evangelical past, and invoking subtleties too easily ignored by the pontificators, Schaeffer adds much-needed nuance to the existing religious conversation. “I discovered from the emails I’ve been inundated with since my memoir was published that there are more of us perplexed former (or currently) religiously inclined or religiously raised folks on a journey from past certainties to points unknown than I’d been aware of. We want to have faith in God in spite of our bad experiences with religion, oppressive family relationships, and/or doubts and questions. We too worry that we have been hoodwinked by a fairy tale. I hope that this audiobook will provide a meeting place for those of us who count ourselves among the scattered members of what I’ll call the Church of Hopeful Uncertainty."
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A guidebook for living a life without religion, combining sociological insight and personal inspiration. Over the last 25 years, "no religion" has become the fastest growing religion in the United States. Around the world, hundreds of millions of people have turned away from the traditional faiths of the past and embraced a secular - or nonreligious - life, generating societies vastly less religious than at any other time in human history.
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Anecdotal based approach for understanding
- By Gary on 12-30-14
By: Phil Zuckerman
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The Atheist Muslim
- A Journey from Religion to Reason
- By: Ali A. Rizvi
- Narrated by: Neil Shah
- Length: 9 hrs and 8 mins
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Struggling to reconcile the Muslim society he was living in as a scientist and physician and the religion he was being raised in, Ali A. Rizvi eventually lost his faith. Discovering that he was not alone, he moved to North America and promised to use his new freedom of speech to represent the voices that are usually quashed before reaching the mainstream media - those of Atheist Muslims.
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An honest book
- By Naeem Rahim on 11-28-16
By: Ali A. Rizvi
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Who Is This Man?
- The Unpredictable Impact of the Inescapable Jesus
- By: John Ortberg
- Narrated by: Arthur Morey
- Length: 7 hrs and 40 mins
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Best-selling author John Ortberg shares how Jesus' influence has swept over history and how his vision of life continues to impact humanity today. Jesus' impact on our world is highly unlikely, widely inescapable, largely unknown, and decidedly double-edged. It is unlikely in light of the severe limitations of his earthly life; it is inescapable because of the range of impact; it is unknown because history doesn't connect dots; and it is doubled-edged because his followers have wreaked so much havoc, often in his name.
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NOT narrated by John Ortberg, sadly
- By T. Harris on 08-15-12
By: John Ortberg
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Atheism for Dummies
- By: Dale McGowan PhD
- Narrated by: Paul Mantell
- Length: 15 hrs and 49 mins
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Atheism For Dummies offers a brief history of atheist philosophy and its evolution, explores it as a historical and cultural movement, covers important historical writings on the subject, and discusses the nature of ethics and morality in the absence of religion. A simple, yet intelligent exploration of an often misunderstood philosophy.
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Great topic...irritating narrator
- By Duke Playbent on 10-26-14
By: Dale McGowan PhD
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Witness
- By: Ariel Burger
- Narrated by: Jason Culp
- Length: 8 hrs and 1 min
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Ariel Burger first met Elie Wiesel at age 15. They studied together and taught together. Witness chronicles the intimate conversations between these two men over decades as Burger sought counsel on matters of intellect, spirituality, and faith while navigating his own personal journey from boyhood to manhood, from student and assistant to rabbi and, in time, teacher. In this profoundly hopeful, thought-provoking, and inspiring audiobook, Burger takes us into Elie Wiesel's classroom, where the art of listening and storytelling conspire to keep memory alive.
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Touching and enlightening
- By Yakira Colish on 03-12-19
By: Ariel Burger
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Angels and Ages
- A Short Book About Darwin, Lincoln, and Modern Life
- By: Adam Gopnik
- Narrated by: Adam Gopnik
- Length: 7 hrs and 21 mins
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Written 200 years after Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln shared a birthday on February 12, 1809, this insightful account sheds new light on two men who changed the way we think about the meaning of life and death. Award-winning journalist Adam Gopnik's unique perspective, combined with previously unexplored stories and figures, reveals two men planted firmly at the roots of modern views and liberal values.
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Connecting Darwin and Lincoln
- By Joshua Kim on 06-10-12
By: Adam Gopnik
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Tales of Wonder
- By: Huston Smith
- Narrated by: Michael McConnohie
- Length: 5 hrs and 18 mins
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Huston Smith, the man who brought the world's religions to the West, was born almost a century ago to missionary parents in China during the perilous rise of the Communist Party. Smith's lifelong spiritual journey brought him face-to-face with many of the people who shaped the 20th century. His extraordinary travels around the globe have taken him to the world's holiest places, where he has practiced religion with many of the great spiritual leaders of our time.
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Takes of wonder for sure, by a wonderful man.
- By Dr. D. Brian Austin on 04-03-19
By: Huston Smith
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The Kingdom
- By: Emmanuel Carrère, John Lambert - translator, Claire Bloom - director
- Narrated by: Stefan Rudnicki
- Length: 16 hrs and 25 mins
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Gripped by the tale of a Messiah whose blood we drink and body we eat, the genre-defying author Emmanuel Carrère revisits the story of the early Church in his latest work. With an idiosyncratic and at times iconoclastic take on the charms and foibles of the Church fathers, Carrère ferries listeners through his "doors" into the biblical narrative. Once inside, he follows the ragtag group of early Christians through the tumultuous days of the faith's founding.
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The Gospel of Emmanuel
- By Mark on 12-31-17
By: Emmanuel Carrère, and others
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Death to Deconstruction
- Reclaiming Faithfulness as an Act of Rebellion
- By: Joshua S Porter, John Mark Comer - contributor
- Narrated by: Joshua S Porter
- Length: 7 hrs and 58 mins
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This book is more than Porter's own story. It also invites those who may be in the deconstruction process themselves to consider the perspective of someone who was tempted to leave his faith—yet stayed. And it provides theological insight and pastoral support to those who worry that everyone is bailing out on the church.
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Beautiful
- By Anonymous User on 05-10-23
By: Joshua S Porter, and others
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Crazy for God
- By: Frank Schaeffer
- Narrated by: Frank Schaeffer
- Length: 10 hrs
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By the time he was 19, Frank Schaeffer’s parents had achieved global fame as best-selling evangelical authors and speakers, and Frank had joined his father on the evangelical circuit. He would go on to speak before thousands and publish his own best seller. But while coming of age as a rising evangelical star, Schaeffer felt increasingly alienated, and as a result, he experienced a crisis of faith that would ultimately lead to his journey out of the fold - even if it meant losing everything.
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Recommended!
- By Catherine Heard on 10-29-10
By: Frank Schaeffer
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Angels All Around Us
- A Sightseeing Guide to the Invisible World
- By: Anthony DeStefano
- Narrated by: Anthony DeStefano
- Length: 5 hrs and 59 mins
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Everybody has one. It's called a "haunt detector". It's the little alarm that goes off in our heads whenever we detect that something mysterious or supernatural has occurred. You could be sitting around relaxing, and for no special reason you start thinking about someone. Then the phone rings; you pick it up, and amazingly, it's that person! Many of us have experienced this phenomenon.What is it? Anthony DeStefano answers this compelling question in his fascinating new book, The Invisible World.
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Simplistic
- By Margaret on 03-26-12
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- Thomas
- 09-24-10
A Very Personal Book
Schaeffer writes clearly and passionately. His own history is the true subject of the book. He is thoughtful but also cutting in his critique of the new atheists, but he is completely unsparing in his contempt for "evangelical fundamentalists" who represent the childhood against which he rebelled. His utter lack of empathy toward those who seem to be like his father leads to an unjust portrayal of Rick Warren, for example. He idealizes Marine Corp. boot camp because his son became a Marine and writes beautifully about his love for his granddaughter. He consciously and selectively idealizes the Greek Orthodox tradition, but that is perhaps understandable. This is about him, after all.
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- Angelina
- 02-23-16
Written from the heart
Like all of Frank's books, this has a very personable feel to it. You are not presented with another dogmatic statement from one extreme position or another but rather with an honest description of what it's like to live in the tension between those two extremes. While his experience growing up with two missionary parents is probably more intense than others, I think you would be hard pressed to find a person, who was raised in evangelical circles, that didn't experience some of what he did.
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- Jeffrey
- 10-29-11
Mixed Blessing
Have always enjoyed Frank Schaeffer's previous material. But this is not what you call "a home run". Nonetheless, he did make a few valid points. As an agnostic I find myself fighting the "atheist" label a nebulous task. So many presumptions that I prefer to use the term "non-theistic".(note: Many people just scratch their heads when they hear that term. Works for me as it avoids knee-jerk confrontations). Anyway, for the most part Schaeffer is right to criticize Hitchens and somewhat lesser so Dawkins and Harris. They can get somewhat overly demanding. On the other hand Dennet has a much different demeanor than the others. In Dennet's work," Breaking the Spell", you'll find that he bends over backwards to accommodate a theistic view. He merely thinks there may be ways to measure the religious experience in a more objective manner. Here is where I differ from Schaeffer who appears to use an emotionally simplistic appeal that falls a little short. Regardless of my opinion about this book , I still admire Schaeffer's courage to speak out in the public domain as he has for years.
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- Frank
- 05-30-18
Spiritual message delivered
Schaeffer delivers an incredibly spiritual message, more than most fundamentalists can comprehend.
Highly recommended for those who are on a spiritual path.
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- Harriet Mugweru
- 12-18-17
Not what I expected
This book was more a comparison of what other authors had done rather than what the title described. I didn’t even get to the end.
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