vegan is about more than just not eating meat

like the natural hair movemnt is about way more than hair. "sista vegan" cracked me open and this book filled me with acknowlegement and empowerment. this book dosent do that shamy blamy all black people thing. im relistening now. this book is permission to free yo miiind. think for yourself. listen to yourself

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theory accessible to non academics

aph ko never fails to deepen my compassion for the living beings around me. this work gave language to the shortcomings intersectionality in practice in social justice spaces and lived experience of bw. I have new perspectives on a Black body politic.

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Great read!

Aph Ko does very well in explaining the connection between the anti-racist and animal rights movements. I love how she uses popular media such as the film "Get Out" and the dating show "The Bachelor," which made these complex theories understandable, thus, more accessible. It got a little messy in the middle, where she didn't clearly explain the connections. Also, intersectionality, as conceptualized by Kimberlé Crenshaw, was multidimensional. The narrator is great. This was a refreshing perspective, and I hope it becomes one of our classics.

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easy read, great intellectual content

the author does a great job at illustrating her points. as a community organizer, this book gave me a lot of great things to reflect on.

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Great concept

This theory is enough to shift a paradigm for sure! Great time listening and learning.

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Narration makes complex text more understandable

I don't know how Aph Ko does it. She's like your kind and generous older sister with a PhD who re-states academic social theory in a way that makes it relevant to your life. She still uses phrases like "decolonial Black epistemic frameworks," but never leaves you hanging there confused. She puts things in the context of "The Bachelor" and the horror film "Get Out," which is used throughout the book to describe the ways that white supremacy exploits and consumes black and brown bodies as well as animals.

As with her great book "Aphro-ism" (co-authored with sister Syl Ko), one of my favorite parts is how she explains that intersectionality is not a good method for analyzing oppressions. Excerpt:

"Although activists are accustomed to taking “race,” “gender,” and “class” and making them intersect, most people don't question how they have been trained to understand what “race,” “gender,” and “class” are to begin with. The reason why Black women are excluded from both the anti-racist movement and the feminist movement is because our cultural understandings of what constitutes a “Black person” and what constitutes a “woman” are already tainted and separated at the root. The mainstream public thinks of a “Black person” as a man and a “woman” as a white female. Making these two spaces connect doesn't discursively birth a Black woman."

Or she discusses how black men are excluded from positions of power in the Black Lives Movement as well as from stories of race-based sexual violence. I didn't know, for example, that Trayvon Martin might've thought George Zimmerman was a rapist. And I didn't know the long history of whites literally consuming slaves, making them into purses and even eating them, and how taxidermy has been used as a symbol of white supremacy.

Anyway, if the following passage speaks to you, you'll love this book:

"How is it possible that we live in an era in which anti-racist activists are acutely aware of how white supremacy treats people of color “like animals,” but are discouraged from examining how literal animals are casualties of this racial caste system as well?"

While I loved the book from the beginning, I read it fairly slowly because of the big words. When I switched to the audio version, I raced through. Both were helpful — the former so I could highlight parts I wanted to think upon later, and the latter so I could simply enjoy the discussion of how our society deals with race, gender, and animals.

Grade: A

As for the narration, Dana Brewer Harris was perfect. She really helped the complex ideas go down smoothly.

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Aph Ko Provides the Paradigm Shift We Need

I can’t speak highly enough about this work. Ko’s knack for brilliant synthesis of complex issues is such a treasure. She offers a unified field theory that resolves practical and theoretical conflicts about how to move forward. The way she outlines her theory with popular media examples makes it very accessible. I eagerly await her future work! In the meantime, do yourself a favor and buy this one.

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Brilliant! Eye opening and a must read.

For anyone interested in liberation of any kind, this book speak about the common denominator in the world of social change. If we think intersectionality is the way forward, we miss the 3 dimensional view. Where intersectionality is a look at where different movements "intersect", a look at animality, shows us the full breadth of the underlying root system of white supremacy. Thanks to Aph Ko's easy to understand narrative, we get a glimpse into the consumptive behaviors perpetuated by the idea that that dominance is natural, and that some living beings are superior to others. Beautifully illustrated with thorough research, and many a welcome trip outside of the thinking boxes we create for ourselves and each other. Deep gratitude for this painstaking witnessing of the scenes behind the curtains we draw on so much in our history.

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Not a fan

While I agree with the author that there is overlap between white supremacy and the abuses of both people and animals alike, I disagree with the author’s suggestion that it’s largely the source of both. Along with discounting the current animal rights/veganist movements, the author also discounts the feminist movement suggesting black men can’t be part of the patriarchy but if they happen to be seen that way, it’s due to western white supremacy as well. She contends that any other view is a lazy, shallow view of the subjects.

While I would acknowledge they all play a role in where we are in today’s American society, none of these views are inherent to white western culture as the author suggests but rather widespread in cultures the world over and have largely been throughout recorded history.

I tend to follow Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson’s thoughts in ‘Beasts: What Animals Can Teach Us About the Origins of Good and Evil’. It all began with gardening. He presents the idea that when our ancestors moved from hunter gatherers to settling, creating homesites and domesticating animals as being the real origin of ownership. Once they domesticated animals, it was easier to view ‘others’ in the same light.

I would suggest it is the author who has a narrow world view, looking almost exclusively at the US experience. Solely at colonial times through the present day. The author points out many issues with today’s society and accurately points out the lack of funding for people who want to tackle issues in structural systems while calling out by name other publications and documentaries she sees as missing the mark but offers no path forward or suggestions for tackling these hard issues. At work I was always encouraged to point out problems but was also told to offer a solution when I bring them up.

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