The Ecotechnic Future
Envisioning a Post-Peak World
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The industrial age made possible by fossil fuels will surely decline as these fuels run out. In The Ecotechnic Future John Michael Greer alerts the listener to possible changes future generations may face as these dwindling fuel supplies lead first to a deindustrial age, then to a society which salvages the remnants of our current plenty, and eventually to a time in which people may learn to live in balance with the environment: an ecotechnic society.
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Cities are birthplaces of civilization; centers of culture, trade, and progress; cauldrons of opportunity - and the home of 80 percent of the world's population by 2050. As the 21st century progresses, metropolitan areas will bear the brunt of global megatrends such as climate change, natural resource depletion, population growth, income inequality, mass migrations, and education and health disparities, among many others.
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The best way to save the future is to look at the past
- By Kate on 10-01-22
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Work
- A Deep History, from the Stone Age to the Age of Robots
- By: James Suzman
- Narrated by: Nicholas Guy Smith
- Length: 13 hrs and 47 mins
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Work defines who we are. It determines our status and dictates how, where, and with whom we spend most of our time. It mediates our self-worth and molds our values. But are we hardwired to work as hard as we do? Did our Stone Age ancestors also live to work and work to live? And what might a world where work plays a far less important role look like? To answer these questions, James Suzman charts a grand history of "work" from the origins of life on Earth to our ever more automated present, challenging some of our deepest assumptions about who we are.
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if you like Jared Diamond's work, you'll like this
- By Mark on 04-09-22
By: James Suzman
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Trekonomics
- The Economics of Star Trek
- By: Manu Saadia
- Narrated by: Oliver Wyman
- Length: 8 hrs and 16 mins
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What would the world look like if everybody had everything they wanted or needed? Trekonomics, the premier book in financial journalist Felix Salmon's imprint PiperText, approaches scarcity economics by coming at it backward - through thinking about a universe where scarcity does not exist. Delving deep into the details and intricacies of 24th-century society, Trekonomics explores post-scarcity and whether we, as humans, are equipped for it.
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An Amusing & Practical Analysis of Fictional Ideas
- By Lost In The Wash on 09-19-16
By: Manu Saadia
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Fossil Future
- Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas—Not Less
- By: Alex Epstein
- Narrated by: Alex Epstein
- Length: 16 hrs and 15 mins
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For over a decade, philosopher and energy expert Alex Epstein has predicted that any negative impacts of fossil fuel use on our climate will be outweighed by the unique benefits of fossil fuels to human flourishing--including their unrivaled ability to provide low-cost, reliable energy to billions of people around the world, especially the world’s poorest people. And contrary to what we hear from media “experts” about today’s “renewable revolution” and “climate emergency,” reality has proven Epstein right.
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Strongly Recommend
- By Kevin on 06-14-22
By: Alex Epstein
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The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels
- By: Alex Epstein
- Narrated by: Alex Epstein
- Length: 6 hrs and 11 mins
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For decades environmentalists have told us that using fossil fuels is a self-destructive addiction that will destroy our planet. Yet by every measure of human well-being, from life expectancy to clean water to climate safety, life has been getting better and better. How can this be? The explanation is that we usually hear only one side of the story. We're taught to think only of the negatives of fossil fuels, their risks and side effects, but not their positives.
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A different point of view
- By Ballofyarn on 01-12-17
By: Alex Epstein
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The Journey of Humanity
- The Origins of Wealth and Inequality
- By: Oded Galor
- Narrated by: Kobna Holdbrook-Smith
- Length: 8 hrs and 46 mins
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Why are humans the only species to have escaped—only very recently—the subsistence trap, allowing us to enjoy a standard of living that vastly exceeds all others? And why have we progressed so unequally around the world, resulting in the great disparities between nations that exist today? Galor’s gripping narrative explains how technology, population size, and adaptation led to a stunning “phase change” in the human story a mere two hundred years ago.
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promoting innovation and industrial disease
- By Anonymous User on 01-18-24
By: Oded Galor
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The Third Industrial Revolution
- How Lateral Power Is Transforming Energy, the Economy, and the World
- By: Jeremy Rifkin
- Narrated by: Kevin Foley
- Length: 12 hrs and 23 mins
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Author Jeremy Rifkin presents an insider's account of the next great economic era: the Third Industrial Revolution, when a new ethic of sustainability will revolutionize the world we live in.
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Lamenting "The Third Industrial Revolution"
- By Joshua Kim on 05-01-12
By: Jeremy Rifkin
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The Rational Optimist
- How Prosperity Evolves
- By: Matt Ridley
- Narrated by: L. J. Ganser
- Length: 13 hrs and 37 mins
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Life is getting better at an accelerating rate. Food availability, income, and life span are up; disease, child mortality, and violence are down all across the globe. Though the world is far from perfect, necessities and luxuries alike are getting cheaper; population growth is slowing; Africa is following Asia out of poverty; the Internet, the mobile phone, and container shipping are enriching people's lives as never before.
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Personal
- By Robert F. Jones on 09-15-17
By: Matt Ridley
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You Belong to the Universe
- Buckminster Fuller and the Future
- By: Jonathon Keats
- Narrated by: Josh Bloomberg
- Length: 5 hrs and 20 mins
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A self-professed "comprehensive anticipatory design scientist", the inventor Buckminster Fuller (1895-1983) was undoubtedly a visionary. Fuller's creations often bordered on the realm of science fiction, ranging from the freestanding geodesic dome to the three-wheel Dymaxion car to a bathroom requiring neither plumbing nor sewage. Yet in spite of his brilliant mind and lifelong devotion to serving mankind, Fuller's expansive ideas were often dismissed, and have faded from public memory since his death.
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Bucky, Bucky, Bucky
- By Amazon Customer on 08-25-18
By: Jonathon Keats
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- Jihad H. Al-Sadah
- 12-27-21
EROI concept and solar missed
The book presents good insights in various topical area. However, a consistent theme is that fossil fuel is diminishing and nothing can be done about it. Humanities and cultures has to adapt in stages.
In defining the concept of "net energy", the author misunderstand the concept of energy return on energy investment. Yes, fossil fuel and tar sand are low in "net energy" or low EROI and this applies to bioethanol. However, in energy research circles the EROI is not fixed but subject to two factors: source deterioration (or less probable improvement) and technology improvement.
The author is ignoring solar energy and labeling it as low in "net energy" permanently. This is not the case, Currently, solar energy has improved to a great extent becoming in some geographies the cheapest energy source ever (2 us cents per kWh). We expect lowering of this cost further in future. Concentrated fossil fuels are dense, yes, but synthetic fuels can be made using cheap electricity from solar and wind. Transportation can be electric (trains and cars) and the aviation can use synthetic fuels or continue to use fossil fuels (with balancing carbon capture).
Is there possibility of technological collapse? may be. However, it is also possible that humanity under improved renewable electricity could usher a new era of improvment.
Energy is dynamic and improvements and deteriorations are acting at the same time. Energy efficiency in using the energy could reduce the energy needs. It has been demenstrated that a building can be kept worm not by an external energy but thermal energy of the sources inside (human bodies, electrical and electronic equipment).
Negative future is possible but positive future is possible too. We can steer toward a good one.
Best, JH, physicst and inventor
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- Marissa quarry
- 09-17-24
I had to add this. It’s a good book. Christ, I just want to submit this review!
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- Survival Chicken
- 11-14-12
not the apocalypse you were expecting
Would you try another book from John Michael Greer and/or Tony Craine?
I'm definitely getting more JMG books.
What other book might you compare The Ecotechnic Future to and why?
Dmitri Orlov
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Won't work on my Sansa Clip Zip unless I convert it to MP3 first.
If this book were a movie would you go see it?
Movie? We're living it!
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Great wake up call from a lot of modes of thinking that turn out to be very old after all. I thought I got some exposure from being an English major in college, but apparently a lot of the good stuff wasn't on the reading list. Would have loved to have this guy as a prof. because he shows the pitfalls of different ways of thinking.
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- Josh D.
- 02-23-22
Wow
Second book from Greer and his observational skills and abilities to transform them into wisdom are unmatched.
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- Paul
- 07-16-16
Future world view minus the apocalyptic claptrap
I listened to JMG'S book "Rise and Fall" prior to this one. I would suggest readers do the same. The greater the number of decades you have lived, the better able you are to see the future he outlines. Regardless of your political beliefs or scientific knowledge, you will learn from this text and have much to ponder. Our society is destined to change significantly as petroleum supplies decline and arguably we are just beginning to see these changes. Mr Greer's book describes a future much different than what most people envision. This is an excellent book to encourage your offspring to read if you're a parent.
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- Peter
- 02-04-13
In depth evolutionary & historic view of our futur
What did you love best about The Ecotechnic Future?
This is a wide reaching historic and evolutionary account and view of human endevours with a view to show that we are heading for the cliff, nature does not care, but that we should change course completely for our own sake. Should be read by anyone who has some sanity left
What other book might you compare The Ecotechnic Future to and why?
Eaarth, The Great Turning,
Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?
Some of it is really scary and hard hitting stuff, which is hard to stomach
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Absolutely worth every minute
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- Joshua
- 07-25-17
Thoughts On Autumn, Written In Late Summer
In The Ecotechnic Future, the ever-interesting, ever well-read John Michael Greer gives us his take on how the world will change as Peak Oil increasingly becomes felt. His viewpoint is appreciated: he gives his theories and predictions without falling into either fantasies of green utopianism or visions of Mad Max-style anarchy. Sober, I think, is the word to describe it. It'll be harder for all of us, and that is sad, but it is what it is.
The book starts with a discussion of general principles before getting into a topic-by-topic discussion of such subjects as Food, Work, Culture, and Science. Those familiar with his other work will recognize his way with words. In describing his writing style, the first thing that comes to mind is Greer-like. Yes, John Michael Greer's prose is very Greer-like.
Tony Craine gives a fine reading. As much as I enjoyed the mad wizard flavor that Kristoffer Tabori gave Greer's "Decline And Fall" (also on Audible), I think Craine did the right thing by reading this book in a dispassionate manner.
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- me
- 04-08-10
A possible future?
While some might have issues with the author's religion, the book itself offers an interesting preview of a world that may come, perhaps sooner than we think. Ecotechnic Future synthesizes current issues and debates and posits a possible future of declining energy availability and the consequences for our civilization. While The Ecotechnic Future may be depressing to some, I found the work insightful and thought provoking. It is useful to remember that we are living in a fossil fuel age that is but a blip in the long story of humanity. What the book examines is what may come after our energy rich blip has passed. I'd recommend this book for people interested in environmental issues or people interested in looking at a possible human future via the long duree.
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- A.J.
- 11-05-16
Listened to five times now!
An important book visioning the future. It inspires me to skill up. I listen to it while gardening.
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- chadwick white
- 04-12-22
Started out well
The book started out very well, with plenty of good information. The last two chapters of the book felt like the author was trying to use the biggest words he possibly could to prove his intellect. Do yourself a favor and just skip the last two chapters.
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