
The Ecotechnic Future
Envisioning a Post-Peak World
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Tony Craine
The industrial age made possible by fossil fuels will surely decline as these fuels run out. In The Ecotechnic Future John Michael Greer alerts the listener to possible changes future generations may face as these dwindling fuel supplies lead first to a deindustrial age, then to a society which salvages the remnants of our current plenty, and eventually to a time in which people may learn to live in balance with the environment: an ecotechnic society.
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Critic reviews
In defining the concept of "net energy", the author misunderstand the concept of energy return on energy investment. Yes, fossil fuel and tar sand are low in "net energy" or low EROI and this applies to bioethanol. However, in energy research circles the EROI is not fixed but subject to two factors: source deterioration (or less probable improvement) and technology improvement.
The author is ignoring solar energy and labeling it as low in "net energy" permanently. This is not the case, Currently, solar energy has improved to a great extent becoming in some geographies the cheapest energy source ever (2 us cents per kWh). We expect lowering of this cost further in future. Concentrated fossil fuels are dense, yes, but synthetic fuels can be made using cheap electricity from solar and wind. Transportation can be electric (trains and cars) and the aviation can use synthetic fuels or continue to use fossil fuels (with balancing carbon capture).
Is there possibility of technological collapse? may be. However, it is also possible that humanity under improved renewable electricity could usher a new era of improvment.
Energy is dynamic and improvements and deteriorations are acting at the same time. Energy efficiency in using the energy could reduce the energy needs. It has been demenstrated that a building can be kept worm not by an external energy but thermal energy of the sources inside (human bodies, electrical and electronic equipment).
Negative future is possible but positive future is possible too. We can steer toward a good one.
Best, JH, physicst and inventor
EROI concept and solar missed
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Would you try another book from John Michael Greer and/or Tony Craine?
I'm definitely getting more JMG books.What other book might you compare The Ecotechnic Future to and why?
Dmitri OrlovHow could the performance have been better?
Won't work on my Sansa Clip Zip unless I convert it to MP3 first.If this book were a movie would you go see it?
Movie? We're living it!Any additional comments?
Great wake up call from a lot of modes of thinking that turn out to be very old after all. I thought I got some exposure from being an English major in college, but apparently a lot of the good stuff wasn't on the reading list. Would have loved to have this guy as a prof. because he shows the pitfalls of different ways of thinking.not the apocalypse you were expecting
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What did you love best about The Ecotechnic Future?
This is a wide reaching historic and evolutionary account and view of human endevours with a view to show that we are heading for the cliff, nature does not care, but that we should change course completely for our own sake. Should be read by anyone who has some sanity leftWhat other book might you compare The Ecotechnic Future to and why?
Eaarth, The Great Turning,Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?
Some of it is really scary and hard hitting stuff, which is hard to stomachAny additional comments?
Absolutely worth every minuteIn depth evolutionary & historic view of our futur
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The book starts with a discussion of general principles before getting into a topic-by-topic discussion of such subjects as Food, Work, Culture, and Science. Those familiar with his other work will recognize his way with words. In describing his writing style, the first thing that comes to mind is Greer-like. Yes, John Michael Greer's prose is very Greer-like.
Tony Craine gives a fine reading. As much as I enjoyed the mad wizard flavor that Kristoffer Tabori gave Greer's "Decline And Fall" (also on Audible), I think Craine did the right thing by reading this book in a dispassionate manner.
Thoughts On Autumn, Written In Late Summer
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Future world view minus the apocalyptic claptrap
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A possible future?
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Listened to five times now!
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Started out well
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