The Emperor's New Mind
Concerning Computers, Minds, and the Laws of Physics
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Roger Penrose
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For decades, proponents of artificial intelligence have argued that computers will soon be doing everything that a human mind can do. Admittedly, computers now play chess at the grandmaster level, but do they understand the game as we do? Can a computer eventually do everything a human mind can do?
In this absorbing and frequently contentious book, Roger Penrose puts forward his view that there are some facets of human thinking that can never be emulated by a machine. The book's central concern is what philosophers call the "mind-body problem". Penrose examines what physics and mathematics can tell us about how the mind works, what they can't, and what we need to know to understand the physical processes of consciousness. He is among a growing number of physicists who think Einstein wasn't being stubborn when he said his "little finger" told him that quantum mechanics is incomplete, and he concludes that laws even deeper than quantum mechanics are essential for the operation of a mind. To support this contention, Penrose takes the listener on a dazzling tour that covers such topics as complex numbers, Turing machines, complexity theory, quantum mechanics, formal systems, Godel undecidability, phase spaces, Hilbert spaces, black holes, white holes, Hawking radiation, entropy, quasicrystals, and the structure of the brain.
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Warped Passages is an altogether exhilarating journey that tracks the arc of discovery from early 20th-century physics to the razor's edge of modern scientific theory. One of the world's leading theoretical physicists, Lisa Randall provides astonishing scientific possibilities that, until recently, were restricted to the realm of science fiction. Unraveling the twisted threads of the most current debates on relativity, quantum mechanics, and gravity, she explores some of the most fundamental questions posed by Nature.
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Physics textbook without the math
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In trying to understand the atom, physicists built quantum mechanics, the most successful theory in science and the basis of one-third of our economy. They found, to their embarrassment, that with their theory, physics encounters consciousness. Authors Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner explain all this in nontechnical terms with help from some fanciful stories and anecdotes about the theory's developers. They present the quantum mystery honestly, emphasizing what is and what is not speculation.
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What is space? It isn't a question that most of us normally stop to ask. Space is the venue of physics; it's where things exist, where they move and take shape. Yet over the past few decades, physicists have discovered a phenomenon that operates outside the confines of space and time. The phenomenon - the ability of one particle to affect another instantly across the vastness of space - appears to be almost magical.
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Rambling but Asks Good Questions
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Infinite Powers recounts how calculus tantalized and thrilled its inventors, starting with its first glimmers in ancient Greece and bringing us right up to the discovery of gravitational waves. Strogatz reveals how this form of math rose to the challenges of each age: how to determine the area of a circle with only sand and a stick; how to explain why Mars goes "backwards" sometimes; how to turn the tide in the fight against AIDS.
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Not written to be read aloud
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A unique fusion of philosophy and metaphysics set against the backdrop of contemporary culture. Have you ever wondered if the world is really there when you're not looking? We tend to take the reality of our world very much for granted. This book will lead you down the rabbit hole in search of something we can point to, hang our hats on, and say this is real.
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A real great listen on the nature of reality
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Throughout history, scientists have come up with theories and ideas that just don't seem to make sense. These we call paradoxes. The paradoxes Al-Khalili offers are drawn chiefly from physics and astronomy and represent those that have stumped some of the finest minds. With elegant explanations that bring the listener inside the mind of those who've developed them, Al-Khalili helps us to see that, in fact, paradoxes can be solved if seen from the right angle.
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Almost Useless
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The latest developments in physics have the potential to radically revise our understanding of the world: its makeup, its evolution, and the fundamental forces that drive its operation. Knocking on Heaven's Door is an exhilarating and accessible overview of these developments and an impassioned argument for the significance of science. There could be no better guide than Lisa Randall.
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Too Political
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Beginning with a detailed discussion of the role of mathematics and experimentation in validating generalizations in physics-looking closely at the reasoning of scientists such as Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Lavoisier, and Maxwell-Harriman skillfully argues that the inductive method used in philosophy is in principle indistinguishable from the method used in physics.
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Quite refreshing
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Dance of the Photons
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Einstein's steadfast refusal to accept certain aspects of quantum theory was rooted in his insistence that physics has to be about reality. Accordingly, he once derided as spooky action at a distance the notion that two elementary particles far removed from each other could nonetheless influence each others propertiesa hypothetical phenomenon his fellow theorist Erwin Schrdinger termed quantum entanglement.
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Brilliant author tries hard, but comes up short...
- By Michael on 07-27-12
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- Boris
- 10-10-20
This is great news. Good Job Nobel Prize Winner!
It would appear that Nassim Haramein with Walter Russell's work compounded and the fact that Walter has just received the Nobel Prize. I am exited to read Nassims new paper he is about to release on the compounding effects with the Iching and the ability of the biorhythms of humanity....
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- froth
- 10-06-21
Not appropriate for an audio format.
This book is filled with illustrations and equations. The illustrations are of course just skipped over but so are sections of text that refer to the illustrations. This means that sometimes the audio will be describing some concept and will suddenly skip to another concept abruptly. The audio tries to read the equations but, not being simple equation and using Greek letters and symbols more common to advanced physics, the equations often turn into a garbled mess. I ended up getting a hard copy of the book in order to follow what was going on.
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- ProductDesignerIRL
- 08-04-24
Excellent book, terrible adaption to audio book
This is one of the most profoundly interesting text in existence. Few people in the world are able to raise and investigate this intellectual territory, with the credibility of Roger Penrose. However, he himself expresses (in this book!) how hard he finds it to achieve an understanding of mathematical ideas through verbal communication. Ironic then, the editors of this book decided to read every single equation. This is incomprehensible and quickly becomes irritating.
Suggest future editors consider supplying an accompanying PDF download for the equations, diagrams and illustrations as they are an essential part of the content necessary to understand the author’s ideas.
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- Christopher Hayler
- 05-11-24
fascinating
great narrator, interesting ideas. the math was over my head and the long part where all the binary numbers are read out was rough to listen to but the rest was really interesting and thought provoking especially now that AI is in the news constantly
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- Tony Loman
- 10-19-21
Get the Printed Book
I purchased this without thinking. Have had the printed book for many years and thought it would be nice to listen to again. The reader is actually very talented but the content does not lend itself to audio. Like listening to your calculus and analytic geometry text. It is actually faster to read the text. I found myself giggling as the reader read zeros and ones and whatever. Who could follow that. Another option might be to listen while you read. The content of this book is absolutely marvelous and the point that intelligence is more than computation is something that we need to pay attention to. Penrose is a genius. A newer book making many of the same points is The Myth of Artificial Intelligence by Erik Larson. Larson's book is engaging and good for listening.
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- Spider-guy
- 02-04-24
Not read like the math it is.
Early on, Penrose delves into very specific Turing machine codes, which the narrator gamely reads aloud as long minutes of zeroes, ones and other primitive tokens which are opaque in spoken form. Lamentably, the medium does not do justice to the message.
Worse, instead of reading (say) “f(x)” as“f of x,” it’s rendered as “f open parenthesis x close parenthesis,” suggesting the erudite-sounding reader missed out on math, or apprenticed as a typesetter.
This review may be premature— maybe skimming ahead to the material on psychophysics will justify my time with this book as a prelude to “Shadows of Mind” and later work.
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- János Maros
- 05-31-21
Great work, but support material is badly needed!
It would be essential to have an attached pdf, or other document with the relevant equations, to make it possible to understand the content even for a mortal soul without an extraordinardinary attention span.
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- Douglas P.
- 11-07-21
Hard start.
The 1st third was difficult to follow, but all in all it was fantastic informative story.
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- wbiro
- 01-18-23
Historical but Tedious
The book's value is that, after his torturously detailed coverage of 1980's tape-drive technology programming for mathematicians, you come away realizing that the mathematical algorithm approach to creating artificial intelligence may not be the way to go, that it needs to be more language-based so it can ask questions (though words may be defined spatially and by forces, which brings us back to numbers and algorithms, but with clearer guidance)...
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- Michael
- 01-28-20
Good but Dated and Not Great on Audible
The first few chapters of this book would be very difficult in just audible unless you are already very familiar with Turing Machines and the Mandelbrot Set. Unfortunately there is no PDF to go along with the book. Some images can be seen on Google Books and, of course, in paper or kindle.
The rest of the book suggests that human intelligence is non-computable and AI will be unable to produce machines that feel and intuit. Some of these ideas have become dated some are interesting but I did not find any deeply compelling.
Nevertheless this book is has a lot of interesting information and ideas and was well worth the listen, but I would not strongly recommend the Audible version.
The narration was very good considering the very difficult material.
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